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  • buck
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Here is what the 2.5 Seconds or Less section looks like.

Again, I added the column with the total number of sacks taken.

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Here is what 2.6 Seconds or More section.

Again, I added the column with total sacks taken.


Originally posted by MarkD:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
He has 2.96 seconds on average sack. He has that time because he buys time in the pocket. They credit Cam Newton with throwing an inaccurate pass down field as if it's on purpose to "allow" the team to move to the next down. After they get through saying that they point out the lack of outlet options Kap has compared to the rest of the people (those demanding he look for check downs) and then go over the fact that the routes take longer to develop (which would be why he holds the ball for so long in the first place would it not?)
The 49ers used below-average numbers of quick outs, crossing routes and in-routes, according to Pro Football Focus, while relying on deeper corners and go routes more often. The running back screen was practically nonexistent. These are higher-risk, higher-reward routes.

Without the threat of the play action, defenses could spend more time keying in on Kaepernick, leading to an increase in pressure, leading to an increase in sacks.

Quite frankly, the lack of short crossing routes, screens and other hot routes showed an inability to react to the increased pressure Kaepernick was facing in 2014. Roman should have worked more safety valves like that into his offensive packages to give Kaepernick options other than chucking the ball 30 yards downfield against the pass rush.



Basically he did the best with what he was given.
Change things up front and play calling and you see a change in the sacks. There were plenty of times observers pointed out how the routes took too long to develop or at times the offensive line not being able to protect but still calling for 7 step drops etc.

With all that his completion pct still went up??

With all that being said you still need receivers who are quicker and more elusive. Or at the very least can run good routes or know where to sit in a zone.
Boldin is a good option but slow. Crabtree is slow, had very bad body control with good hands. Gore as an outlet would have helped a ltitle but he has lost some quickness.
Roman and Harbaugh should have went with the younger receivers earlier in the season. IMO

Patton and ellington can fulfill that role.
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If I understood the article, the author linked the high number of sacks that Kaepernick took in 2014 with the time that he took in the pocket.

If we look at PFF numbers from both 2013 and 2014, we find that Kaepernick spent less time in the pocket in 2014 than he did in 2013.

So even though he reduced the time in pocket in 2014, Kaepernick still took 13 more sacks in 2014. than he did in 2013.





You can't blame just the O-Line for Kap's play. He regressed in 2014. It was clear, that or he was caught up throwing to guys who had no business being out there. Kap looked horrible in 2014, nothing like his 2012 self that burst onto the league. The OL has been crap for several years now, IMO Staley and Davis are overrated Tackles. And Iupati and Boone aren't the Top OGs that every thinks they are. Our best OL was Kilgore in 2014, and it hurt when he went down.
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Originally posted by buck:
If I understood the article, the author linked the high number of sacks that Kaepernick took in 2014 with the time that he took in the pocket.

If we look at PFF numbers from both 2013 and 2014, we find that Kaepernick spent less time in the pocket in 2014 than he did in 2013.

So even though he reduced the time in pocket in 2014, Kaepernick still took 13 more sacks in 2014. than he did in 2013.






I found the article odd. The fact is, I watched those games and I rarely saw a pocket. There was inside pressure all the time. Kaep may be holding onto the ball but the pass design is basic at best; easily defended. Roman Sucks, Roman is gone, and the offense just got immediately better.
Overall, IIRC, I had:

1. Scheme - vanilla scheme, offense figured out, RB/TE's not emphasized in the passing game and the most 20+ yard pass routes called in the NFL
2. OL - in pass protection/injuries
3. CK and WR's
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
You can't blame just the O-Line for Kap's play. He regressed in 2014. It was clear, that or he was caught up throwing to guys who had no business being out there. Kap looked horrible in 2014, nothing like his 2012 self that burst onto the league. The OL has been crap for several years now, IMO Staley and Davis are overrated Tackles. And Iupati and Boone aren't the Top OGs that every thinks they are. Our best OL was Kilgore in 2014, and it hurt when he went down.

This

Kilgore's play was definitely missed.

I hope he's healing up and ready to go by TC.
Originally posted by buck:
The author used PFF stats, but if he had checked in the cumulative quarterback summary for the year, he would have noticed that PFF put the responsibility on Kaepernick for 7 of his 52 sacks----according to the source used by the author 13.46 % of the sacks were on Kaepernick and 86.53 % of the sacks were not on him.

PFF also provides data that shows that % of sacks that were on Kaepernick in 2014 was lower than the % of sacks that were on him in 2013.

But, that 13.46 % is still high when compared to other quarterbacks.

There is no doubt that Kaepernick needs to throw the ball away more, which he did do last year.
He also needs to take the check down more often and quicker.

Hopefully, his time with Warner in Arizona will prove useful.


This Boom!
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
You can't blame just the O-Line for Kap's play. He regressed in 2014. It was clear, that or he was caught up throwing to guys who had no business being out there. Kap looked horrible in 2014, nothing like his 2012 self that burst onto the league. The OL has been crap for several years now, IMO Staley and Davis are overrated Tackles. And Iupati and Boone aren't the Top OGs that every thinks they are. Our best OL was Kilgore in 2014, and it hurt when he went down.


The OL has had its issues but it has not been as bad as it was this past season in quite awhile. The injuries, the shuffling of lineups, Boone's struggles early on, those were all major issues. Both Staley and Davis are good players, the biggest issue the way I see it has been the lack of pass blocking coming from the left guard spot. Iupati is a mediocre pass blocker at best, he hasn't improved much if at all since his rookie season, as much as he's an All Pro run-blocker, his weaknesses in pass-blocking game are glaring and a good reason for the 49ers to look to someone else that can provide a much happier medium and more balanced blocking.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
This

Kilgore's play was definitely missed.

I hope he's healing up and ready to go by TC.

Remember when everybody was like "man, I can't wait until Marcus Martin replaces Daniel Kilgore..."
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
This

Kilgore's play was definitely missed.

I hope he's healing up and ready to go by TC.

Remember when everybody was like "man, I can't wait until Marcus Martin replaces Daniel Kilgore..."

I think we're going to see Brandon Thomas and Marcus Martin as guards next to Kilgore this year. I think they'll use Boone as the swing tackle because Jonathan Martin really didn't get it done out there and it seems more like Boone's natural position.
Originally posted by buck:
The author used PFF stats, but if he had checked in the cumulative quarterback summary for the year, he would have noticed that PFF put the responsibility on Kaepernick for 7 of his 52 sacks----according to the source used by the author 13.46 % of the sacks were on Kaepernick and 86.53 % of the sacks were not on him.

PFF also provides data that shows that % of sacks that were on Kaepernick in 2014 was lower than the % of sacks that were on him in 2013.

But, that 13.46 % is still high when compared to other quarterbacks.

There is no doubt that Kaepernick needs to throw the ball away more, which he did do last year.
He also needs to take the check down more often and quicker.

Hopefully, his time with Warner in Arizona will prove useful.



20 step drop, YOLO
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
You can't blame just the O-Line for Kap's play. He regressed in 2014. It was clear, that or he was caught up throwing to guys who had no business being out there. Kap looked horrible in 2014, nothing like his 2012 self that burst onto the league. The OL has been crap for several years now, IMO Staley and Davis are overrated Tackles. And Iupati and Boone aren't the Top OGs that every thinks they are. Our best OL was Kilgore in 2014, and it hurt when he went down.

lol so you say can't blame the o-line then proceed to tear it apart.
kap didn't regress the entire offense regressed. the scheme was figured out. it was coaching and injuries that did this offense in period.
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