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  • thl408
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I didn't see many vertical routes by the RBs in 2017. The FB had a few, but this isn't about the FB. This play really stood out because it sent the RB vertical.
49ers see Middle of Field Open and will attack it with a RB. They line up Hyde in the backfield, then shift him into the slot to get closer to the LoS.
This is some sort of 5 man pressure with man coverage, but instead of keeping a safety in the middle deep area of the field, HOU instead puts their lone zone defender in the short underneath area.
Blue LB has the RB (Hyde) in man coverage.


The two #2 WRs stem outside to further open the middle of the field. The RB releases to the inside of the blue LB, to attack the middle of the field.


Plenty of room to work the seam route.


This is Hyde running the route. Imagine a faster RB. Incomplete because Hyde had trouble adjusting to the pass.


I could easily see Pettis getting open on the red
^i bet we see McKinnon getting more of these looks

The thought of the Jet on my fantasy team....


Receiver at the bottom inside the numbers was open too. Seems like on every passing plays of Kyle, there are usually 2 open guys.
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This was the only instance I saw of this play, but it's notable because it's not legal, and it almost worked. Attacking the flat area, to the wide side, with the RB.
vs Fire Zone blitz


Playaction to draw in the playside LB (blue)...


..so that the FB can block the LB. This is beyond 1 yard of the LoS, which makes this an illegal pick, or in this case a straight up block.


The RB works off the pick and goes to the flat. Great job by the LB to make up ground and limit RAC. The concept is simple, and so is the throw. This is a case where a RB that fits the scheme (Jet) can earn more RAC because he's a quick open field runner.
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I'll cut up some creative screen passes a bit later.
Originally posted by thl408:
I'll cut up some creative screen passes a bit later.

Great job 👍

The McKinnon thread should be linked to these pages.
  • Wodwo
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Originally posted by thl408:
I'll cut up some creative screen passes a bit later.

You're awesome.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:

McKinnon and Pettis, if they get in the open space and make that first tackler miss, they are going to gash the defense for a big chunk of yardage, if not score a 6.
lol Kyle's redzone isn't inside the 20, it's inside the 40
Keep em coming! Loving this thread!!!
Originally posted by thl408:
This was the only instance I saw of this play, but it's notable because it's not legal, and it almost worked. Attacking the flat area, to the wide side, with the RB.
vs Fire Zone blitz

Playaction to draw in the playside LB (blue)...

..so that the FB can block the LB. This is beyond 1 yard of the LoS, which makes this an illegal pick, or in this case a straight up block.

The RB works off the pick and goes to the flat. Great job by the LB to make up ground and limit RAC. The concept is simple, and so is the throw. This is a case where a RB that fits the scheme (Jet) can earn more RAC because he's a quick open field runner.

Doesn't it fall under the 5 yard chuck rule since the ball wasn't in the air until after the contact was complete and done with?
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
lol Kyle's redzone isn't inside the 20, it's inside the 40
Yeah, no kidding. Below is Bill Walsh's thoughts on the red zone. Kyle might have adopted this train of thought.

http://www.westcoastoffense.com/bill%20walsh%20article%201.htm
I have seen many teams march the ball beautifully, but right around the 15-yard line, they are already warming up their placekicker, because right at that point defenses change, the field they can operate in changes, and suddenly their basic offense goes all to pieces.
My contention is that if we are on their 25, we're going for the end zone. Failing at that, we will kick a field goal. In an evenly matched game, I don't want to try to take the ball from their 25 to the goal line by trying to smash it through people, because three out of four times, you won't make it. Unless you are superior. Of course, if you are vastly superior it makes very little difference how you do it.
Why? First, every defensive coach in the country is going to his blitzes about right there. The pass coverage, by and large, will be man-to-man coverage. We know that if they don't blitz one down, they're going to blitz the next down. Automatically. They'll seldom blitz twice in a row but they'll blitz every other down. If we go a series where there haven't been blitzes on the first two downs, here comes the safety blitz on the third down. So we are looking, at that point, to get into the end zone.
By the style of our football, we'll have somebody to get the ball to a little bit late-just as an outlet to get 4 or 5 yards, to try to keep it. But from the 25 to the 10, we're going for the end zone.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Doesn't it fall under the 5 yard chuck rule since the ball wasn't in the air until after the contact was complete and done with?
Hmm. I thought the rule is 1 yard beyond the line scrimmage, can't block a defender. Unless the pass is targeted behind the line of scrimmage. Juice straight up put a lead block on that LB 2 yards beyond the LoS.
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