Offseason All22 Film Study

Originally posted by lamontb:
That LB was in position to intercept the ball if he threw to Goodwin or Celek

Looks like the TE was open right away to the left (and I think Shanahan saw this but Jimmy went to the right, to Juice). I think what affected the play was that the DT #75 got a real good push on the the LG (Laken?) and drove the LG right into Jimmy's face and I thiink he could have batted the ball down if Jimmy threw that way. Also, the two LB's were keying on the TE and I think were baiting him into an interception and I agree with the poster (THL?) who said that it could have been interecepted by the LB.

The oline still has two more weeks to work out kinks and prepare for what is one of the top defenses in the nfl. A test that will benefit them in the long run--stay the course!

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Yessir. It'll certainly help. I would like to see one drive after the half. One more drive would be good. Can use it as a testing situation. Those times you might be down 10+ at half.

Jimmy can't brain this.

Just has to trick the guys into buying in

Why Shanahan's offense doesn't feature much of back shoulder throws?

Originally posted by littleken:

Why Shanahan's offense doesn't feature much of back shoulder throws?

CJ did it with Pettis. Wasn't QUITE out in front of him enough but Pettis didn't come down with it. Not sure if defender got a hand in there.

Hey thl, that overhang role for Fred Warner reared its head again.

Red zone was today. No doubt that is a focus for the team heading into week 1.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by littleken:
Why Shanahan's offense doesn't feature much of back shoulder throws?

CJ did it with Pettis. Wasn't QUITE out in front of him enough but Pettis didn't come down with it. Not sure if defender got a hand in there.

Shanahan's offense do LESS back shoulder throws. I didn't mean they don't do any.

Also, was that throw from CJ off target and become a back shoulder throw, or was that intended back shoulder throw?

Originally posted by littleken:

Why Shanahan's offense doesn't feature much of back shoulder throws?

That's because Kyles offense gets players wide open between the hashes.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Hey thl, that overhang role for Fred Warner reared its head again.

one more ?

What coverage were the 49ers in on the Eric Ebron TD? 3 buzz? Hard to tell from the TV angle.

Originally posted by Heroism:
one more ?

What coverage were the 49ers in on the Eric Ebron TD? 3 buzz? Hard to tell from the TV angle.

Yeah looks like Cover3 Buzz to me. The part I don't know is whether they were asking Foster to match the #2. He looks like he's just playing an inside/out re-route of the #2. Then when the TD is scored, he throws his arms up like "wth". There's some sort of misplay from either Foster, Spoon, or Colbert. I'll post pics.

Originally posted by thl408:
Yeah looks like Cover3 Buzz to me. The part I don't know is whether they were asking Foster to match the #2. He looks like he's just playing an inside/out re-route of the #2. Then when the TD is scored, he throws his arms up like "wth". There's some sort of misplay from either Foster, Spoon, or Colbert. I'll post pics.

Good stuff. Exactly what I thought as well.

What I don't know is whether the 49ers are pattern matching here or spot dropping. If they are pattern matching, then Foster is asked to carry #2 if #2 goes vertical. Spoon would then match #1 since #1 went vertical. It essentially turns into Cover1.
Something similar to this, where Foster is 'J'.


But what Foster does is play a re-route of #2, then hits a landmark - he's not pattern matching. Orange are underneath zones.


The further Foster can push #2 outside, the closer #2 gets to Spoon, which helps Spoon be able to play both #1 and #2. Colbert is shaded towards the two WR side and that will give Ebron more room to work the seam between Colbert and Spoon.


Foster looks like he is turning and running with #2, but he'll drop off and play a Curl/Flat.


Can't tell what Spoon is doing from the available tv views. If they are not pattern matching, then Spoon has to be wary of both #1 and #2, split the difference to be able to play both the verticals. If they are pattern matching, then Spoon matches #1 and shouldn't care about #2.
Only the guys on the team know. Foster not happy with how that turned out.

Originally posted by thl408:

What I don't know is whether the 49ers are pattern matching here or spot dropping. If they are pattern matching, then Foster is asked to carry #2 if #2 goes vertical. Spoon would then match #1 since #1 went vertical. It essentially turns into Cover1.
Something similar to this, where Foster is 'J'.


But what Foster does is play a re-route of #2, then hits a landmark - he's not pattern matching. Orange are underneath zones.


The further Foster can push #2 outside, the closer #2 gets to Spoon, which helps Spoon be able to play both #1 and #2. Colbert is shaded towards the two WR side and that will give Ebron more room to work the seam between Colbert and Spoon.


Foster looks like he is turning and running with #2, but he'll drop off and play a Curl/Flat.


Can't tell what Spoon is doing from the available tv views. If they are not pattern matching, then Spoon has to be wary of both #1 and #2, split the difference to be able to play both the verticals. If they are pattern matching, then Spoon matches #1 and shouldn't care about #2.
Only the guys on the team know. Foster not happy with how that turned out.

Gotta be on Colbert then? But they looked like they had him purposely on the 2 WR side. Feel like Tartt in that position should be responsible for the TE.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Gotta be on Colbert then? But they looked like they had him purposely on the 2 WR side. Feel like Tartt in that position should be responsible for the TE.

This can't be on Witherspoon as there's no way he'd be responsible for both Hilton and Ebron's routes. I initially thought Rueben, but seeing Tartt bite hard on the PA leads me to believe he was supposed to drop deeper and take away Ebron's vertical or Seam.