Offseason All22 Film Study

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Gotta be on Colbert then? But they looked like they had him purposely on the 2 WR side. Feel like Tartt in that position should be responsible for the TE.

This can't be on Witherspoon as there's no way he'd be responsible for both Hilton and Ebron's routes. I initially thought Rueben, but seeing Tartt bite hard on the PA leads me to believe he was supposed to drop deeper and take away Ebron's vertical or Seam.

Tratt obviously looked to be the spy here. Warner was the only player without an assignment on this one. One of those three 48, 29, or 56 messed up. Did we only have 10 on defense?

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Gotta be on Colbert then? But they looked like they had him purposely on the 2 WR side. Feel like Tartt in that position should be responsible for the TE.

This can't be on Witherspoon as there's no way he'd be responsible for both Hilton and Ebron's routes. I initially thought Rueben, but seeing Tartt bite hard on the PA leads me to believe he was supposed to drop deeper and take away Ebron's vertical or Seam.

I think it's essentially a boo boo between Tartt and Reuben . They switched roles, with Tartt playing like the mike with eyes on the RB and Reuben covering the TE like a safety. But with the RB staying in to block they should both end up bracketing the TE

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
This can't be on Witherspoon as there's no way he'd be responsible for both Hilton and Ebron's routes. I initially thought Rueben, but seeing Tartt bite hard on the PA leads me to believe he was supposed to drop deeper and take away Ebron's vertical or Seam.

Witherspoon has to read it to 2-to-1 and split the difference since it's double verticals. It's a very tough play for him without the #2 vert being matched.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Tratt obviously looked to be the spy here. Warner was the only player without an assignment on this one. One of those three 48, 29, or 56 messed up. Did we only have 10 on defense?

If it's 3 buzz, Tartt isn't a spy, he's a weak side hook defender.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
This can't be on Witherspoon as there's no way he'd be responsible for both Hilton and Ebron's routes. I initially thought Rueben, but seeing Tartt bite hard on the PA leads me to believe he was supposed to drop deeper and take away Ebron's vertical or Seam.

Witherspoon has to read it to 2-to-1 and split the difference since it's double verticals.

If it's 3 buzz, Tartt isn't a spy, he's a weak side hook defender.

If it's a spot drop Cover3, then the bolded is true.
If it's a pattern match Cover3, then Foster has to turn and tun with #2, Spoon will match #1.
Going back to spot drop Cover3 (not pattern matching), and how Spoon has to split the difference of #1 and #2, this is the first example that came to my mind. This is Kap vs NE.
49ers will send 2 verticals at the field CB that is playing deep 1/3. This is vs spot drop Cover3.


As the CB sees #1 and #2 coming at him, he starts to split the difference so that he has an equal chance at defending both routes. NE is not pattern matching here as the underneath defenders don't look to turn and run, opting to play their underneath zones. Kap used his eyes to move the middle safety away from the middle of the field. In the IND play, IND lined up two WRs to the wide side of the field, which caused Colbert to shade over to the wide side.


Sending two vertical routes at a deep 1/3 defender is a horizontal stretch - does the CB move inwards to defend #2, or outwards to defend #1? With no pressure on the QB, the zone begins to stretch and the CB has more room to defend.


Touchdown. The play vs IND is different in that the #1 WR is not attached to the line, whereas in this play it's two inline TEs.

Added it late in my edit, but I don't understand why they didn't match 4 verts vs 2x2.

and I hate cover 3 in the red zone.

The Cover3 rip/liz match concepts (pic posted on previous page) is something Saban and Hoodie came up with specifically to defend 4 verticals. Since they liked to play Cover3, teams would shred them with 4 verticals, sending 4 deep routes to the deep area of the field that was only defended by 3 defenders.
So Cover3 rip/liz match was conceived, where the Curl/Flat defenders were tasked with matching any vertical route from the #2 WR, to prevent the three deep zones from being outnumbered.
In the IND play, if it was Cover3 pattern match, then Foster has to turn and run with the TE (#2) since he's the curl/flat defender. He did not. So that means Foster is playing as if it's spot drop Cover3, which mean he expects Spoon to split the difference and play both #1 and #2. I can't tell what Spoon is doing because I can't see him. Again, only the guys in the meeting room know what was supposed to happen.
Tartt is a Hook defender, the TE isn't his concern unless it's some sort of crossing route into Tartt's zone.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Added it late in my edit, but I don't understand why they didn't match 4 verts vs 2x2.

and I hate cover 3 in the red zone.

Agreed. I think asking Spoon to play both #1 and #2 that close to the end zone leaves them susceptible to quick throws like what we saw. Maybe Foster goofed and was supposed to match the TE? Glad it happened in preseason so they can iron that out.

This play shows why Colbert shaded over to the 2 WR side, that was also the wide side of the field (referring to the IND play). The 2 WR side presents a greater passing threat than the TE side, so the FS will be asked to shade over.
This is also 2 verticals being sent at a Cover3 deep 1/3 defender. This play is from earlier in the thread.


The deep 1/3 defender being targeted (blue) sees #1 and #2 coming at him plays with outside leverage on #1 (Kittle), which leaves #2 open (Celek).

Well I'm sure as heck glad that play occurred so there's no grey areas next time.

I was watching some TColeman passing plays from 2016 (Kyle was OC) to get a sense for how Coleman might be used in the 49er offense. This play really stood out to me. Coleman is like a RB/WR hybrid. Unlike a WR, he is tough enough to run between the tackles, and has vision to hit the holes. Unlike most RBs, he is over 6 feet and can get in and out of his breaks efficiently. This play shows a WR trait that can allow him to be used like a WR. There are more good looking plays with Coleman lined up in the slot as he displayed a decent route tree. This one I had to share.

ATL is in 21 personnel. The purple route is a FB and there's a LB lined up across from him. This tells the QB it's man coverage. (Julio is green)
4 verticals vs Cover 2 Man
LB Brandon Marshall (54) is lined up across from Coleman (26) and has him in man coverage. In Cover2 Man, all slot defenders will play with inside shade/leverage to keep routes away from the seam in the middle of the field between the two safties.


Coleman stems his route outside since Marshall lined up with inside shade.


Coleman swats away the hands of Marshall (better angle in gif).


Coleman uses his speed and runs right by Marshall. This is simply a speed mismatch. QB is mid release.


The hand swat may seem like a simple thing, but there's a timing to it that most RBs don't practice and don't do well. Coleman here does it perfectly and uses his speed to roast Marshall. Even though Marshall had inside leverage to keep Coleman away from the middle seam, Coleman's speed is too much for a LB.


Kyle will attack the deep middle of Cover2 with this RBs. Now he has a RB with speed and some WR-like nuance.

Nice! I always suspect the ultimate goal of Kyle's offense is to extend his redzone beyond the 20s into the 30s & 40s.

Evidence and proof

That's why I'm saying we need to keep all 3 RBs. Coleman is better suited for this role and doesn't have to be the bell cow.

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Nice breakdowns. I really thought Jimmy might've struggled due to Shanny taking the training wheels off of Jimmy, but you just showed it's more the early in the year offense taking on a good Vikes D

Hope there will be more winning games to breakdown instead of losers. Seemed taxing otherwise.