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Originally posted by defenderDX:
right, those speak to other issues. like play-calling and situational awareness. not the one's I'm referring to that fans call out when they haven't seen a single snippet of film from last year.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Stupid work computer won't show your screen caps. Looks like I'll be reading this at home... on a date night. I 'll blame you for this if my wife changes the locks on me. Hope you have a comfy couch.
Originally posted by thl408:..
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
I love the work you and Jonnydel put into this thread. I was wondering if you could show why Kilgore turned out so good before injury?
Originally posted by WRATHman44:Feet.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Feet.
He has quick feet?
Originally posted by WRATHman44:yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
How do you think he projects to the ZBS.
) do better in the ZBS than the power scheme we had the last 4 years. So will Staley, imo. Thomas is made for it, Davis ran it in college. Boone is a question mark, but if he struggles, Martin should be up to speed and Looney is MUCH better than general consensus, which was based on a dozen or so bad plays last year. You learn consistency through repetition, after all.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
How do you think he projects to the ZBS.
I think he'd (he'll
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
How do you think he projects to the ZBS.
I think he'd (he'll
Spot on!
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
How do you think he projects to the ZBS.
I think he'd (he'll
Spot on!
Without watching Kilgore in depth, I agree very much with what's said about Kilgore. He will not overpower anyone, but always has good positioning so that leverage is working for him. He seems to beat the defender to the spot, and uses leverage to hold the spot, that's sufficient to open holes in the run game. I trust WRATHman's assessment that it's his feet that allows him to do this.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
yep, and he doesn't take false steps. he's always in position, so even though he isn't especially strong or big, his body is always between his defender and the hole.
How do you think he projects to the ZBS.
I think he'd (he'll
Spot on!
Without watching Kilgore in depth, I agree very much with what's said about Kilgore. He will not overpower anyone, but always has good positioning so that leverage is working for him. He seems to beat the defender to the spot, and uses leverage to hold the spot, that's sufficient to open holes in the run game. I trust WRATHman's assessment that it's his feet that allows him to do this.
Thanks, man. I had a great OL coach who always used to say, "If you can't put your man on his ass, then you work your ass into the hole." Kilgore's that guy who rarely gets a pancake, but almost always manages to work his ass into the hole. He's a tenacious technicial, imo.
Originally posted by defenderDX:Originally posted by thl408:Very nice example of a QB using his eyes to manipulate the deep safety. I would venture to guess that AS knew presnap that he was going to target the VD vs Strong Safety matchup when presnap motion gave away man coverage. From there, it's just helping VD out by removing the FS from the equation using his eyes.
I want to say Kap does this fine when it comes to freezing the safeties. What I don't think he does enough of is moving the LB level zone defenders with his eyes to open up passing lanes over the middle of the field. There was one play versus DAL where I thought he did this and was excited to see more of it from him (it was cut up, I'll find it). It just didn't unfold that way as the season progressed. For Kap, it's not so much about trusting what he sees, it's trusting what he doesn't see.
If he has high confidence in his presnap read, he should trust that this particular route(s) will be his best chance to get a WR the ball on a particular play. Just as important, also understanding which routes have little to no chance versus the coverage he determines presnap. We saw a lot of this last season when he faced cover3. Whenever he looked, and remained looking, to see if a vertical route against a bailing CB will be open, I questioned why. There is almost no chance that Crab/Boldin is going to defeat a CB up the sideline when the CB is bailing. Kap shouldn't even bother looking that direction expecting to throw the ball. He should be looking towards routes that break behind the LBs, for example.
He needs to understand which routes have a high probability of being open and from there, use his eyes to move defenders, to increase the chances of that route being open. Zone coverage is conceptually easy to bust because the concepts work. He needs to trust the concepts. This is also why we see him go backside so much. He sees 1v1 man coverage on the backside and that's easy to understand and read presnap. Then he over-trusts his arm and his WR to make the play.
Originally posted by TheRathman44:
This is why I think Jaelen Strong is a perfect fit for this offense. He bails his QB out a TON.
