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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by NYniner85:Here's a thought trade for Mathis and put Boone out at RT...boom!
Don't know his contract details, but my gut tells me it would be a barrier to that happening. Conceptually, it's a nice idea though.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
He's absolutely correct. You can get by with far lesser talent in a zone blocking system. Look at Seattle's OL, they've been converting DL's and pulling guys out of their ass and still somehow making it work. 49ers start with better overall talent.
Shanahan regularly found guys in the 6th and 7th rounds who came in and were starters from Day 1. Its not a system that requires you to be physically dominant as much as it requires you to have good awareness, football IQ and agility.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Don't know his contract details, but my gut tells me it would be a barrier to that happening. Conceptually, it's a nice idea though.
He's making around $5 million this year.
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Like a lot of people, I have been concerned about the offensive tackle situation. A. Davis has struggled with injuries (it's probably a good idea for him to take a year off and get healthy) and Boone hasn't shown himself to be particularly reliable lately, so though he may do well if he is kicked out to RT - lots of incentive for him to do so because he can cash in on it - I wish I could feel more confident that he would do well. Please excuse me for tooting my own horn a bit, but that's why I posted this back in May (in the "Bold Predictions" thread, post #10):
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/182591-bold-predictions/
Baalke is going to wish he had acquired a much better back-up offensive tackle in FA or the draft.
Well he did grab Pears in FA (has to be better than Synder and J.Martin was) plus two developmental T's in Silberman and Brown (who is already getting nice reports). Obviously, had Baalke known about Davis, he would have taken additional measures to secure a viable and more assured replacement. But that's on Davis. Not Baalke.
Yes, Davis should have figured out that he was going to bow out before the draft, but with his injury situation, Baalke should have assumed there was a pretty fair chance that Davis would not be available for at least a big chunk of the season. I certainly hope Pears turns out to be better with a different scheme and coaches but I think it's fair to say he is at least a big question mark. And Silberman and/or Brown may turn out to be good OTs, but, again, they are least big question marks for this year. I think Baalke would have improved the likelihood of getting a good spare tackle if he had chosen one in the first or second rounds (or at least 3rd) of the draft. If not that, he should have aimed for an experienced vet with more proven recent play than Pears.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Just did a little reading and I've quickly changed my tune. If there's a possibility of restructuring Mathis, we might be able to make this work. But is it worth it to us? As stated, in the ZBS, certain qualities can make you a better player in that system than you might be in a straight-up power scheme.
So, we might want to use the money to extend others instead.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
He's absolutely correct. You can get by with far lesser talent in a zone blocking system. Look at Seattle's OL, they've been converting DL's and pulling guys out of their ass and still somehow making it work. 49ers start with better overall talent.
Shanahan regularly found guys in the 6th and 7th rounds who came in and were starters from Day 1. Its not a system that requires you to be physically dominant as much as it requires you to have good awareness, football IQ and agility.
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Yes, Davis should have figured out that he was going to bow out before the draft, but with his injury situation, Baalke should have assumed there was a pretty fair chance that Davis would not be available for at least a big chunk of the season. I certainly hope Pears turns out to be better with a different scheme and coaches but I think it's fair to say he is at least a big question mark. And Silberman and/or Brown may turn out to be good OTs, but, again, they are least big question marks for this year. I think Baalke would have improved the likelihood of getting a good spare tackle if he had chosen one in the first or second rounds (or at least 3rd) of the draft. If not that, he should have aimed for an experienced vet with more proven recent play than Pears.
Well the thing is, reports indicate the 49ers did know it was a strong possibility Davis wouldn't play this season. Based on that, they must've felt pretty comfortable with their plan going forward.
Right, there was good reason to think that Davis may not be available for much or all of the season. I'm sure he did feel at least mostly "comfortable" with their plan going forward and Baalke certainly knows the players way, way better than me. But everyone makes goofs. I think this has the potential to be a pretty big goof. I hope I'm wrong because I want the O-line to play much better than last year. It's just going to take some decent play from the RT position most of the year to convince me that my hunch is wrong.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
He's absolutely correct. You can get by with far lesser talent in a zone blocking system. Look at Seattle's OL, they've been converting DL's and pulling guys out of their ass and still somehow making it work. 49ers start with better overall talent.
Shanahan regularly found guys in the 6th and 7th rounds who came in and were starters from Day 1. Its not a system that requires you to be physically dominant as much as it requires you to have good awareness, football IQ and agility.
Originally posted by NCommand:
I did not know there was a hint Davis wouldn't play. Why? He came back from a concussion and finished out the season and started to play well. Then the off season and OTA's started months and months later. Why would the FO suspect Davis was even considering this? Anyone know?
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Most good GMs have crystal balls...unfortunately we are saddled with a guy who just uses logic and great football sense. No other team in football has ever had a player retire...so sad...
NEWS FLASH!...back in the real world...the niners will probably be fine and they will still field a team for the upcoming season!
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
b******t! The sand in their lady parts crowd says that is impossible.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Staley-Thomas-Kilgore-Martin-Boone
Hoping it ends up like this
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Staley-Thomas-Kilgore-Martin-Boone
Hoping it ends up like this
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I would have thought Looney would be in the starting lineup by now. Disappointing for a 4th rounder's development.
