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Dec 4, 2020 at 9:17 AM

#21976

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Cue the Arians vs KS play calling excuses lol

Because even you know its context. Kind of like how you knew we ran the most last year and the hits went down. What an odd correlation, huh? Does that mean they were a better PP unit? Of course not. They just weren't utilized as much. But when they were used, it wasn't pretty. #4QSuperbowl

Sure it does. But my question was do you have proof that TB giving up QB hits correlates to them losing?

The only time Tom Brady loses in the NFL over his career is when he's under regular and constant duress. It was just a safe assumption. There could be a correlation on the QB pressures and hits but you'd have to look at each game loss and compare to each win. Maybe?

Dec 4, 2020 at 9:21 AM

#21977

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Cue the Arians vs KS play calling excuses lol

Because even you know its context. Kind of like how you knew we ran the most last year and the hits went down. What an odd correlation, huh? Does that mean they were a better PP unit? Of course not. They just weren't utilized as much. But when they were used, it wasn't pretty. #4QSuperbowl

Sure it does. But my question was do you have proof that TB giving up QB hits correlates to them losing?

The only time Tom Brady loses in the NFL over his career is when he's under regular and constant duress. It was just a safe assumption. There could be a correlation on the QB pressures and hits but you'd have to look at each game loss and compare to each win. Maybe?

Ah ok gotcha. You said as though it was a fact so Thought maybe there were some #s you had that showed this.

Dec 4, 2020 at 9:30 AM

#21978

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I get all of that...for me throwing our TT and QB hits as some super meaningful stat to show how good or bad a OL is imo is kinda meh.

Totally agreed. It was never meant to be the end all, be all. Just a single objective metric. Context and evaluations in discussion should always be had around them.

Same with FO, PFF, Twitter content, etc.

Okay I'm gonna remember that for next time I bring up PFF, FO, Twitter content and you don't like it

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 4, 2020 at 9:31 AM ]

Dec 4, 2020 at 11:19 AM

#21979

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Ah ok gotcha. You said as though it was a fact so Thought maybe there were some #s you had that showed this.

Sorry about that.

Dec 4, 2020 at 11:21 AM

#21980

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I get all of that...for me throwing our TT and QB hits as some super meaningful stat to show how good or bad a OL is imo is kinda meh.

Totally agreed. It was never meant to be the end all, be all. Just a single objective metric. Context and evaluations in discussion should always be had around them.

Same with FO, PFF, Twitter content, etc.

Okay I'm gonna remember that for next time I bring up PFF, FO, Twitter content and you don't like it

All good. The tough thing on some of those metrics is the subjectivity within their own operational definitions vs. more concrete things like QB hits, pressures, sacks, false starts, penalties, tackles, etc.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 4, 2020 at 11:21 AM ]

Dec 4, 2020 at 4:06 PM

#21981

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This guy.

Laken Tomlinson just said he thinks the 49ers offensive line "played pretty well" against the Rams.

Who's going to tell him the truth?
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) December 4, 2020

Mike mcglinchey this Monday 😂😂🗑 pic.twitter.com/VHxYV31Hm2
— HoracioF223 (@F223Horacio) December 4, 2020

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 4, 2020 at 4:09 PM ]

Dec 4, 2020 at 4:08 PM

#21982

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Originally posted by NCommand:
This guy.

Laken Tomlinson just said he thinks the 49ers offensive line "played pretty well" against the Rams.

Who's going to tell him the truth?
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) December 4, 2020

I know, Grant is the worst

Dec 4, 2020 at 4:10 PM

#21983

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I know, Grant is the worst

At least he'll tell him like AA.

Dec 4, 2020 at 5:00 PM

#21984

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That sweet stuff.

Daniel Brunskill, Laken Tomlinson and Charlie Woerner of the 49ers Perfect the Art of Not Blocking https://t.co/JjnXkrMjFA
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) December 4, 2020

Dec 4, 2020 at 5:10 PM

#21985

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Good luck Mullens.

The 49ers face two of the NFL's most successful pass rushes over the next two games.... Pass-rush win rate (ESPN)...

1. Steelers: 57%
**2. Bills: 53%**
3. Falcons: 53%
**4. Washington: 51%**
5. Buccaneers: 50%https://t.co/j1QkReQVet
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 4, 2020

Dec 4, 2020 at 6:16 PM

#21986

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGper_sLLM

Right Side of the 49ers Offensive Line

It's Grant Cohn but its video.

Dec 4, 2020 at 6:24 PM

#21987

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Originally posted by NCommand:
That sweet stuff.

Daniel Brunskill, Laken Tomlinson and Charlie Woerner of the 49ers Perfect the Art of Not Blocking https://t.co/JjnXkrMjFA
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) December 4, 2020

You love you some Cohn NC

Dec 4, 2020 at 6:41 PM

#21988

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Originally posted by NCommand:
That sweet stuff.

Daniel Brunskill, Laken Tomlinson and Charlie Woerner of the 49ers Perfect the Art of Not Blocking https://t.co/JjnXkrMjFA
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) December 4, 2020

NC has now gone the grant Cohn route to prove stuff

Dec 4, 2020 at 6:42 PM

#21989

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You love you some Cohn NC

Even if Grant said the OL was elite I wouldn't use it lol

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 4, 2020 at 6:54 PM ]

Dec 4, 2020 at 7:48 PM

#21990

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
You love you some Cohn NC

Even if Grant said the OL was elite I wouldn't use it lol

I especially love when he only shows video evidence and doesn't talk.

Otherwise, I wouldn't post it. Haha