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Dec 5, 2020 at 2:36 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:



Laken Tomlinson is fantastic on wide zone plays. Dude doesn't hang his left tackle buddy out to dry, which regularly happens with other OT+OG combos.
Dec 5, 2020 at 3:03 PM
Dec 5, 2020 at 6:45 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Maybe he can get things rolling. It doesn't matter who is under center, our playoff hopes are a joke if the OL keeps screwing up as they have all year.
Dec 6, 2020 at 7:42 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by dlance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGper_sLLM

Right Side of the 49ers Offensive Line

It's Grant Cohn but its video.

Holy s**t this is so bad. The music is absolutely hilarious!

I think the worst part is the run plays they just flat out miss there block. Then the RB getting hit.
Dec 6, 2020 at 8:22 AM
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Maybe he can get things rolling. It doesn't matter who is under center, our playoff hopes are a joke if the OL keeps screwing up as they have all year.

The biggest thing that stands out to me is the comments by the OL. Whitner brought this up. He thinks they just have very low standards and they aren't holding each other accountable. Whitner said there are coaches grades they go over in film and then player assessments and THOSE are the ones that mattered the most to the players because during his time, the players were brutally honest with each other and would be much more objective on a micro level.

Maybe Staley can bring that to the room because based on comments by Tomlinson, Williams and McGlinchey (three veterans), they're standards are very low or leaning heavily towards just one side of the equation (run blocking).
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 6, 2020 at 12:07 PM ]
Dec 6, 2020 at 9:27 AM
And health.


Lombardi dropping knowledge on fans today.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 6, 2020 at 12:40 PM ]
Dec 6, 2020 at 1:34 PM
Originally posted by dlance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGper_sLLM

Right Side of the 49ers Offensive Line

It's Grant Cohn but its video.

lmao
Dec 7, 2020 at 12:41 AM
God damn, we need someone like Jensen.

Dec 7, 2020 at 5:16 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
God damn, we need someone like Jensen.


Wanted him

Former 6th rd pick from Colorado State University–Pueblo
Dec 7, 2020 at 5:32 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
And health.


Lombardi dropping knowledge on fans today.

I'd like to guess that the 2017 sample was so special because it was,...…just a "sample."

Several games while the 1st time the player was in a new offense. And we for some reason want to extrapolate that over a full season and compare him to everyone else.

Not only are PFF grades suspect when you can't truly figure out how calculate a "sample" of snaps yourself (I've mentioned this), but there's a huge difference between 4-5 samples and 16-19 samples with any statistic. It's not only extremely old in "NFL Years," but a wasted effort in trying to apply it to the here-and-now.
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 7, 2020 at 5:33 AM ]
Dec 7, 2020 at 8:16 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wanted him

Former 6th rd pick from Colorado State University–Pueblo

Can't find IOL in later rounds and develop them. Must use 1st on them.
Dec 7, 2020 at 9:02 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
God damn, we need someone like Jensen.


Don't remind me.
Dec 7, 2020 at 9:06 AM
Originally posted by random49er:
I'd like to guess that the 2017 sample was so special because it was,...…just a "sample."

Several games while the 1st time the player was in a new offense. And we for some reason want to extrapolate that over a full season and compare him to everyone else.

Not only are PFF grades suspect when you can't truly figure out how calculate a "sample" of snaps yourself (I've mentioned this), but there's a huge difference between 4-5 samples and 16-19 samples with any statistic. It's not only extremely old in "NFL Years," but a wasted effort in trying to apply it to the here-and-now.

I agree but his point was that matching pressure vs. non pressure grades of 2017 is just not sustainable and it was probably like that for the reasons you noted (lots of ad libs, defenses not knowing how to play him yet, meaningless games, etc.). So extrapolating that would be a poor idea as he referenced Wilson too (who BTW got destroyed yesterday because of his OL PP issues).
Dec 7, 2020 at 9:06 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wanted him

Former 6th rd pick from Colorado State University–Pueblo

I can vouch for this. Same here.
Dec 7, 2020 at 9:10 AM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Can't find IOL in later rounds and develop them. Must use 1st on them.

Nobody is saying that. LOL. It simply increases your odds of success based on talent traits. Nothing more. It also depends what you're looking for...depth guys like Skule, Brunskill, McKivitz, etc. Going after guys like Tom Compton is calculated too because he fits that role of a depth player who's a veteran and cheap.

Now, if they actually want to UPGRADE starters, you bet your ass they're looking at higher end picks like McGlinchey and Wirfs.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 7, 2020 at 9:17 AM ]
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