49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:
We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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I'm still not 100% sold on my original hypothesis that this system eats through OL because of the volume and complexity of the ask but, the trend continued.

RG Tom Compton - I.R./Active
C Ross Reynolds - I.R.
C Ben Garland - I.R.
LT Trent Williams - I.R.
C Weston Richburg - PUP
T/G Justin Skule - Knee/Active
RG Colton McKivitz - COVID
RT Mike McGlinchey - PRP Injections

Did I miss any?

Like I said, if you're a backup OL on this team, be ready...you will play.

Brunskill, Tomlinson and McGlinchey made it through.

It also seems to eat through RB's too hence why Kyle "needs" 4 RB's + FB.

I'm not sold on trading second and third round pick to move up. If they where 1 or 2 player away great go for it. They need depth on the OL and rush end. You get that with second and third round picks. Draft a Second round rush end. Draft a third round collage center that can train and Guard and Center. If they did this last year they would be in better shape going into this draft. I'm not saying a third round OL is coming in next year and fix everything. I'm saying if they drafted a OL in the third round last year we would have a better idea if he is good or if it was a miss and need to draft someone ells. Colton McKivitz is fine and he mite be a keeper but I would rather have had a third round pick like Lloyd Cushenberry III who played every game this year. I have no idea if Cushenberry or McKivitz is going to be a better OL!!!!!!! I'm saying if someone like Cushenberry where drafted by the 49er in the third round he would have played a ton at Center and we would have a great idea if he was going to work or not work. Right Now Brunskill got moved around and he looks like a backup. McKivitz looked lost at time and I have no idea what he is going to turn into. As of right now they have no third round pick they already traded it and if they move up they will most likely not have a second round pick. That's not helping to build depth on the Roster. They made a bunch of great moves in the draft maybe they can keep some of the second and third round pick and use them on OL, Rush ends and CB.

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:
We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm still not 100% sold on my original hypothesis that this system eats through OL because of the volume and complexity of the ask but, the trend continued.

RG Tom Compton - I.R./Active
C Ross Reynolds - I.R.
C Ben Garland - I.R.
LT Trent Williams - I.R.
C Weston Richburg - PUP
T/G Justin Skule - Knee/Active
RG Colton McKivitz - COVID
RT Mike McGlinchey - PRP Injections

Did I miss any?

Like I said, if you're a backup OL on this team, be ready...you will play.

Brunskill, Tomlinson and McGlinchey made it through.

It also seems to eat through RB's too hence why Kyle "needs" 4 RB's + FB.

Here's my hypothesis about injuries in football as a sport altogether. Good teams see fewer injuries when they have key performers in place dominating as expected. It's easier to sustain when average to good players don't have to over compensate for a blue chip player being out to win. If we apply that to the OL, I still believe the loss of Richburg created a chain-reaction effect on the performance of the OL, like a good QB not playing for his team. As each star player isn't available, the remaining star players play harder thus increasing their risk of injury - particularly if they themselves aren't very durable.

If we have a legit running game with our blockers and runners, does Shanny need to use Deebo like a RB as much? If Mostert has holes to run through and isn't getting crushed at the LOS and **every** run is a tough run, is he more injured?

If we have a great OC making the right calls and providing the runners and passers all they need to have a successful offense, wouldn't the game plan be more balanced and not needed to over rely on forcing the run when the defense is obviously stacked to stop it?

I think it's hard to maintain balanced football when you seem to CONSISTENTLY lose your best players. Sure injuries happen but your start players if they're getting injured repeatedly you have to start asking question everywhere.

100% In the SB the Oline fell apart. Our centre missed crucial assignments that resulted in JG being smashed and made it easy for Jones to bat balls down. Don't get me started on Person .

In my view if Richburg was center in the SB we would have won it. No doubt in my mind.

We need to build depth on Oline and fast. It really hasn't been 100% in years.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I'm still not 100% sold on my original hypothesis that this system eats through OL because of the volume and complexity of the ask but, the trend continued.

RG Tom Compton - I.R./Active
C Ross Reynolds - I.R.
C Ben Garland - I.R.
LT Trent Williams - I.R.
C Weston Richburg - PUP
T/G Justin Skule - Knee/Active
RG Colton McKivitz - COVID
RT Mike McGlinchey - PRP Injections

Did I miss any?

Like I said, if you're a backup OL on this team, be ready...you will play.

Brunskill, Tomlinson and McGlinchey made it through.

It also seems to eat through RB's too hence why Kyle "needs" 4 RB's + FB.

Here's my hypothesis about injuries in football as a sport altogether. Good teams see fewer injuries when they have key performers in place dominating as expected. It's easier to sustain when average to good players don't have to over compensate for a blue chip player being out to win. If we apply that to the OL, I still believe the loss of Richburg created a chain-reaction effect on the performance of the OL, like a good QB not playing for his team. As each star player isn't available, the remaining star players play harder thus increasing their risk of injury - particularly if they themselves aren't very durable.

If we have a legit running game with our blockers and runners, does Shanny need to use Deebo like a RB as much? If Mostert has holes to run through and isn't getting crushed at the LOS and **every** run is a tough run, is he more injured?

If we have a great OC making the right calls and providing the runners and passers all they need to have a successful offense, wouldn't the game plan be more balanced and not needed to over rely on forcing the run when the defense is obviously stacked to stop it?

I think it's hard to maintain balanced football when you seem to CONSISTENTLY lose your best players. Sure injuries happen but your start players if they're getting injured repeatedly you have to start asking question everywhere.

100% In the SB the Oline fell apart. Our centre missed crucial assignments that resulted in JG being smashed and made it easy for Jones to bat balls down. Don't get me started on Person .

In my view if Richburg was center in the SB we would have won it. No doubt in my mind.

We need to build depth on Oline and fast. It really hasn't been 100% in years.

I agree with that. Chris Jones was the guy I would want to eliminate in that game. Take him out and we continue to score.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

I like the idea of having Brunskill to compete at both RG and RT spots. I'd still like to draft a center hpwever. I just want an upgrade on talent on the O-line period. My only locks are Trent Williams if we resign him and Laken Tomlison. Draft a center to compete with Garland and draft a RG to compete with Brunskill as you stated. And Brunskill also gets work at RT. Then we end up with the best 5 out of T. Williams/L. Tomlison/Garland & Rookie/Brunskill, Rookie, and McKivitz/Brunskill, McGlinchey, and S. Coleman. We can also sign an UDFA or take one in the 6th or 7th to compete with Skule.

If we do draft a center I'd like it to be nothing higher than 4th round. I really want us to find a day 1 vet starter that's sitting on someone else's roster as a good player with a track record for availability. Don't trade up to draft a rook. Save those picks for a C trade.

Packers center or prefer cheaper? I want the talent level on O-line to improve.

Originally posted by dlance:
I'm not sold on trading second and third round pick to move up. If they where 1 or 2 player away great go for it. They need depth on the OL and rush end. You get that with second and third round picks. Draft a Second round rush end. Draft a third round collage center that can train and Guard and Center. If they did this last year they would be in better shape going into this draft. I'm not saying a third round OL is coming in next year and fix everything. I'm saying if they drafted a OL in the third round last year we would have a better idea if he is good or if it was a miss and need to draft someone ells. Colton McKivitz is fine and he mite be a keeper but I would rather have had a third round pick like Lloyd Cushenberry III who played every game this year. I have no idea if Cushenberry or McKivitz is going to be a better OL!!!!!!! I'm saying if someone like Cushenberry where drafted by the 49er in the third round he would have played a ton at Center and we would have a great idea if he was going to work or not work. Right Now Brunskill got moved around and he looks like a backup. McKivitz looked lost at time and I have no idea what he is going to turn into. As of right now they have no third round pick they already traded it and if they move up they will most likely not have a second round pick. That's not helping to build depth on the Roster. They made a bunch of great moves in the draft maybe they can keep some of the second and third round pick and use them on OL, Rush ends and CB.

They need to trade down, not trade up. Because our depth is horrible on OL. And a bunch of CBs are leaving. And I'm gonna stick to that draft strategy tbh.

They can still get an average QB like Mac Jones or Kyle Trask in the 2nd round, if they really want to.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
They need to trade down, not trade up. Because our depth is horrible on OL. And a bunch of CBs are leaving. And I'm gonna stick to that draft strategy tbh.

They can still get an average QB like Mac Jones or Kyle Trask in the 2nd round, if they really want to.

the need for help on the o line is greater than anything else on this team. but what the hell. they have not fixed pass protection going back to 2011 so i have no hopes they will address it this off season

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:

We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:

We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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Originally posted by OliverKlozoff:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:

We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by OliverKlozoff:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by grapesofrathman:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Heroism:

We need a vet at center. Kyle wants his center responsible for all the protection calls. A rookie ain't ready to handle that responsibility.

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9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.

His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.

For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?

"impressive"

Wow!

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

They need to trade down, not trade up. Because our depth is horrible on OL. And a bunch of CBs are leaving. And I'm gonna stick to that draft strategy tbh.

They can still get an average QB like Mac Jones or Kyle Trask in the 2nd round, if they really want to.

I'm of this thought too. Might even want to trade down a couple of times and reload those spots.