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- father49er
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- Mr711
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
This !!!!! PFF again proving their on some BS. Papa has said it numerous times and during the game that we have given up more QB hits and pressures than any other unit in the league. I'll take Papa's word over PFF any day
- jonnydel
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
Sometimes I like PFF other times it's useless. I hate their QB grading system because they basically admit, you get style points.
Line is hard because it's a trickle down effect and if you don't look at scheme, it can really mislead.
For example, I pointed it out in my SB video, Staley misses the scat help, gives up inside pressure on a 6 man protection, that causes Tomlinsen to move, which causes our center to give up a pressure cause he thought he had a double team on the DT.
- NCommand
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Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
Sometimes I like PFF other times it's useless. I hate their QB grading system because they basically admit, you get style points.
Line is hard because it's a trickle down effect and if you don't look at scheme, it can really mislead.
For example, I pointed it out in my SB video, Staley misses the scat help, gives up inside pressure on a 6 man protection, that causes Tomlinsen to move, which causes our center to give up a pressure cause he thought he had a double team on the DT.
Remember when Mike McGlinchey continued to get 83.0 overall grades even with 30-grades in pass protection?
Stick to Brandon Thorn's grades.
The 9 teams that allowed the least amount of sacks this season all made the playoffs. Sooo important to limit sacks, and it requires OL, QB and schematic answers to pressure all working together.
— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) January 6, 2021
Hits matter.
- LasVegasWally
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Then ...
Draft/FA interior OLine for Center & RG.
Have Brunskill go head to hear w/McG for starting RT.
- Niner4ever
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Right on!
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
False facts
- Jeepzilla
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Originally posted by NYniner85:1. Cleveland Browns
— PFF (@PFF) January 6, 2021
2. Green Bay Packers
7. Indianapolis Colts @PFF_Linsey's final 2020 NFL offensive line rankings ⬇️
a couple posters
Lol
So your admitting you don't watch the 49er games!
- dj43
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:
9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
That's like saying, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
- jonnydel
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
That's like saying, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
- dj43
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Originally posted by NinerGM:As we all know, because we have seen it happen, a lot of those hits were the result of the QB not being able to read defenses and make a decision about where to throw the ball.
Originally posted by Niner4ever:
9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
Also, as I read down the list of teams in that PFF piece, and comparing their analysis to some of the games I have seen, it became clear once again that the overall level of OL play around the league is not good. It can be true that the 49er OL is #9 in the league but still be in dire need of help in the IOL.
- walker807
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by dj43:As we all know, because we have seen it happen, a lot of those hits were the result of the QB not being able to read defenses and make a decision about where to throw the ball.Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
Also, as I read down the list of teams in that PFF piece, and comparing their analysis to some of the games I have seen, it became clear once again that the overall level of OL play around the league is not good. It can be true that the 49er OL is #9 in the league but still be in dire need of help in the IOL.
Two QBs starters are injured DJ and couldn't complete the season. There's no possible way this could be spun positively. I'm not tracking more teams who've lost both starters to injury due to protections breakdowns. That #9 ranking leans too much on run blocking and even then it wasn't that great this season. OL play being "down" league wide isn't an excuse for McG being horrible and not having a starting center for over a year.
Lulz, you act like they got crushed. Mullens arm was hit on a throw. Hate to break it to you but this will happen no matter how much you invest in the o-line. Need to figure out if just bad luck or a reason all our dudes get injured from a strong breeze.
- NCommand
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by dj43:As we all know, because we have seen it happen, a lot of those hits were the result of the QB not being able to read defenses and make a decision about where to throw the ball.Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Niner4ever:9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
It was difficult to be 100% certain about what Trent Williams would look like after the injuries and time off, but he quickly made it clear that this was still the same guy who was perennially in the conversation for being the best left tackle in the NFL. In fact, Williams' 91.9 PFF grade during the 2020 regular season was the best mark by any left tackle in the league.
His size and athleticism allow him to do things in the run game that most tackles simply can't, and that was apparent again in San Francisco this season despite all the injuries they suffered.
For all those injuries, the offensive line was able to stay relatively healthy outside of the center position, where each of Daniel Brunskill, Ben Garland and Hroniss Grasu played 200 or more offensive snaps. The interior offensive line could be an area that the 49ers look to upgrade this offseason, but all in all, it was an impressive showing for the offensive line this season.
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#9?
"impressive"
Wow!
PFF on crack again.
Leading in QB hits with TWO QB starter hurt because of breakdowns in protection. LOL. Sometimes the film tells the story better than "stats".
Also, as I read down the list of teams in that PFF piece, and comparing their analysis to some of the games I have seen, it became clear once again that the overall level of OL play around the league is not good. It can be true that the 49er OL is #9 in the league but still be in dire need of help in the IOL.
Two QBs starters are injured DJ and couldn't complete the season. There's no possible way this could be spun positively. I'm not tracking more teams who've lost both starters to injury due to protections breakdowns. That #9 ranking leans too much on run blocking and even then it wasn't that great this season. OL play being "down" league wide isn't an excuse for McG being horrible and not having a starting center for over a year.
I'm still trying to understand how PFF in week 16 can note we had 70 QB Hits (double digit higher than the next closest) still rank an OL unit as #9. This is the exact same concept as Mike McGlinchey's weight grade.
In a passing league, they seem to have a wildly skewed grading system towards run blocking.
And this.
Total QB Hits Allowed In 2020:
— Johnny Kinsley (THE BROWNS DID IT) (@Brickwallblitz) January 4, 2021
GB: 50
ARI: 53
CLE, IND: 58
LV: 60
BAL: 61
PIT: 69
NO: 72
BUF: 77
CAR: 78
LAR: 79
NE: 81
MIA: 82
TEN: 83
KC: 85
JAX, TB: 89
DET: 95
CHI: 99
DAL: 101
DEN: 103
HOU: 104
NYJ: 107
LAC: 110
ATL: 111
WAS: 114
NYG, SEA: 117
CIN, MIN: 121
SF: 122
PHI: 150
Un. Real.
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NCommand:I'm still trying to understand how PFF in week 16 can note we had 70 QB Hits (double digit higher than the next closest) still rank an OL unit as #9. This is the exact same concept as Mike McGlinchey's weight grade.
In a passing league, they seem to have a wildly skewed grading system towards run blocking.
And this.
Total QB Hits Allowed In 2020:
— Johnny Kinsley (THE BROWNS DID IT) (@Brickwallblitz) January 4, 2021
GB: 50
ARI: 53
CLE, IND: 58
LV: 60
BAL: 61
PIT: 69
NO: 72
BUF: 77
CAR: 78
LAR: 79
NE: 81
MIA: 82
TEN: 83
KC: 85
JAX, TB: 89
DET: 95
CHI: 99
DAL: 101
DEN: 103
HOU: 104
NYJ: 107
LAC: 110
ATL: 111
WAS: 114
NYG, SEA: 117
CIN, MIN: 121
SF: 122
PHI: 150
Un. Real.
You guys complain about PFF but then post stuff like this.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by NCommand:I'm still trying to understand how PFF in week 16 can note we had 70 QB Hits (double digit higher than the next closest) still rank an OL unit as #9. This is the exact same concept as Mike McGlinchey's weight grade.
In a passing league, they seem to have a wildly skewed grading system towards run blocking.
And this.
Total QB Hits Allowed In 2020:
— Johnny Kinsley (THE BROWNS DID IT) (@Brickwallblitz) January 4, 2021
GB: 50
ARI: 53
CLE, IND: 58
LV: 60
BAL: 61
PIT: 69
NO: 72
BUF: 77
CAR: 78
LAR: 79
NE: 81
MIA: 82
TEN: 83
KC: 85
JAX, TB: 89
DET: 95
CHI: 99
DAL: 101
DEN: 103
HOU: 104
NYJ: 107
LAC: 110
ATL: 111
WAS: 114
NYG, SEA: 117
CIN, MIN: 121
SF: 122
PHI: 150
Un. Real.
You guys complain about PFF but then post stuff like this.
😂