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Jan 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM

NCommand
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Definitely. I look forward to your off season plan. You too have a good eye for talent.

All comes down to QB and what the plan is. I'd personally go after Stafford. What it takes to acquire him and what kind of value you can get for Jimmy G shapes what you do with the rest..

This is the year to attack guard and center. Good prospects in the mid rounds finally.

Convince Alex Mack to give it one more year at the minimum.

Not bad. But you're right, the style/strength of the QB might dictate the type of OL you go after and how they block. Stafford wouldn't be too drastic of a change say from Montana to Young to Garcia.

Jan 8, 2021 at 4:53 PM

#22577

dlance
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Look it's the OL, It's the QB, it's the coaches. The 100% truth is on most plays that where 3rd and 9 the OL gave the QB no time to look more then 5 yard down field and that's not going to cut it.

Jan 9, 2021 at 7:54 AM

#22578

proniner1
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Just saw 49ers offensive line ranked 9 overall this year per PFF

How is that possible? Its a ninersnation article

[ Edited by proniner1 on Jan 9, 2021 at 7:57 AM ]

Jan 9, 2021 at 8:06 AM

#22579

steiber
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Final pass-block win rate tally:

1. Packers
2. Browns
3. Cardinals
4. Bills
5. Saints
6. Chiefs
7. Rams
8. Ravens
9. Seahawks
10. Raiders

Not surprisingly, strong playoff correlation (8/10) there. 49ers were down at #22, actually a percentage point lower in PBWR than 2019
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 7, 2021

Same as its always been.

Looking at this list, I think it shows how poor OL play is around the league not how good it is. Seattle top 10? RW is constantly under pressure and getting sacked. Raiders? Carr was regularly running for his life.

Jan 9, 2021 at 2:21 PM

#22580

9ers4eva
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Originally posted by steiber:
Looking at this list, I think it shows how poor OL play is around the league not how good it is. Seattle top 10? RW is constantly under pressure and getting sacked. Raiders? Carr was regularly running for his life.

The fact PFF has us at 9 shows it. O line play is abysmal around the NFL.

Jan 9, 2021 at 2:41 PM

#22581

NCommand
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Originally posted by steiber:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Final pass-block win rate tally:

1. Packers
2. Browns
3. Cardinals
4. Bills
5. Saints
6. Chiefs
7. Rams
8. Ravens
9. Seahawks
10. Raiders

Not surprisingly, strong playoff correlation (8/10) there. 49ers were down at #22, actually a percentage point lower in PBWR than 2019
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 7, 2021

Same as its always been.

Looking at this list, I think it shows how poor OL play is around the league not how good it is. Seattle top 10? RW is constantly under pressure and getting sacked. Raiders? Carr was regularly running for his life.

If anything, it shows how dismal PFF is at grading OL and their weighting system. McGlinchey is a perfect example whereby he gets a 90 run blocking grade coupled with a 30 in pass protection but ends with an overall grade of 83.0.

Even David Lombardi (PFF guru) is starting to move away from their metrics and referencing others in his latest podcast.

But you're right in saying there aren't a ton of great OL's. Same for DL too.

[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 9, 2021 at 2:42 PM ]

Jan 9, 2021 at 3:41 PM

#22582

jonnydel
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Final pass-block win rate tally:

1. Packers
2. Browns
3. Cardinals
4. Bills
5. Saints
6. Chiefs
7. Rams
8. Ravens
9. Seahawks
10. Raiders

Not surprisingly, strong playoff correlation (8/10) there. 49ers were down at #22, actually a percentage point lower in PBWR than 2019
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 7, 2021

Same as its always been.

Wait, but I thought Jimmy caused our O-line problems due to being a statue....instead, makes it seem like he masked a LOT of our o-line problems.

Jan 9, 2021 at 3:52 PM

#22583

NCommand
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Wait, but I thought Jimmy caused our O-line problems due to being a statue....instead, makes it seem like he masked a LOT of our o-line problems.

Oh now you've done it. And I'm here for it!

Jan 9, 2021 at 3:55 PM

#22584

pdizo916
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Wait, but I thought Jimmy caused our O-line problems due to being a statue....instead, makes it seem like he masked a LOT of our o-line problems.

Oh now you've done it. And I'm here for it!

Jan 9, 2021 at 4:12 PM

#22585

NCommand
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LOL.

If you have a great mobile quarterback, it doesn't matter how bad your offensive line is. Just ask the Seahawks.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) January 9, 2021

Jan 9, 2021 at 4:38 PM

#22586

grapesofrathman
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Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL.

If you have a great mobile quarterback, it doesn't matter how bad your offensive line is. Just ask the Seahawks.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) January 9, 2021

Simple solutions. Just scramble. Insert Nike logo here.

Jan 9, 2021 at 4:51 PM

#22587

NCommand
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Just get a mobile QB, they say.

Jan 9, 2021 at 4:52 PM

#22588

NCommand
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Originally posted by grapesofrathman:
Simple solutions. Just scramble. Insert Nike logo here.

LOL

Jan 9, 2021 at 5:00 PM

#22589

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Just get a mobile QB, they say.

yes that is correct, not a scrambling QB. big difference

Jan 9, 2021 at 5:14 PM

#22590

NCommand
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Just get a mobile QB, they say.
yes that is correct, not a scrambling QB. big difference

True. But case in point, you still need that OL to PP for him or you just end up like Seattle every year. Russell didn't eat. He was eaten.