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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Quick four steps offensive line fix for 2021:
1. Resign T.Williams

2. Sign Alex Mack in FA. Next year's Center prospects are better with Linderbaum and Lindstrom going back to school.

3. Draft Rashawn Slater in the 1st.

4. Draft Wyatt Davis in the 2nd. Possibly he'll drop to the 2nd with Slater and Humphrey being the first two iOL to get drafted.

Williams - Slater - Mack - Davis - MM

With that upgraded OLine, the Niners can run all game and Jimmy won't have to worry about the pocket collapsing on him on almost every snap. As much as I like Tomlinson he's a liability and whiffed a lot. If there's a year the Niners should go all-in on revamping the OL this should be it.

Counting on rookie OL is a dicey proposition. Getting Davis in round 2 is very unlikely.

For some reason Humprhey doesn't look to be as high on draft boards as others. But his Senior Bowl performance could make him jump.
I'd absolutely love to snag both Slater and Humphrey. Yeah I don't like the idea of having to rookies starting at OL. And I'd even make Mike compete with Brunskill for the RT job.

The Colts did it a few years back with Quenton Nelson and Braden Smith. They now have one of the best OL in the league.

We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

On paper, that's far more healthy of an OL. You have to keep 10 anyhow (if the COVID rules still apply).
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Agree with all above, but especially, if we sign Mack, be SURE we then draft a C, or an OG/ C. Much as I want Mack, can't deny the wear and tear on those tires. We have to get a C into the system and rds 3-5 would be nice place to find one. We do have trips at #5...our golden round. But we also have to have an OG, and that needs to be early, late Rd 1 or Rd 2.

Would Kyle/john take a superb OG at 12? Doubtful but if they moved back a bit and picked up another 2nd, that would be just fine and dandy.

As for FA/trade , this is the time to get a sure fire OG or OG/C. Hope JL sees it that way also.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Agree with all above, but especially, if we sign Mack, be SURE we then draft a C, or an OG/ C. Much as I want Mack, can't deny the wear and tear on those tires. We have to get a C into the system and rds 3-5 would be nice place to find one. We do have trips at #5...our golden round. But we also have to have an OG, and that needs to be early, late Rd 1 or Rd 2.

Would Kyle/john take a superb OG at 12? Doubtful but if they moved back a bit and picked up another 2nd, that would be just fine and dandy.

As for FA/trade , this is the time to get a sure fire OG or OG/C. Hope JL sees it that way also.

The unamed rookie is what I hope is a day 2 pick to groomed to be the future starting center by 2022 or 2023.

The Slater pick gives insane versatility as he won't just be a guard. If he remains at RG in my projected lineup, that only means everything else out for us- McGlinchey & Williams holding down the tackle spots and MM ends up being a cheap extension.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
with our injury curse, if we some how signed mack, he'll get injured when signing the papers.

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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
with our injury curse, if we some how signed mack, he'll get injured when signing the papers.

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Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
with our injury curse, if we some how signed mack, he'll get injured when signing the papers.

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we might've caused a concussion that Mack didn't know was coming.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Good post!

JG would improve imensley behind a line like that.
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Good post!

JG would improve imensley behind a line like that.

I'm hoping they trade down that first pick, still get a good center *and* an edge rusher in the first round. But yeah, Kyle needs to shore up the center position with Richburg not able to get rid of his injury bug. If the OLine can give Jimmy at least 3 seconds, even with Journeymen WRs, this offense will go to the next level.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Good post!

JG would improve imensley behind a line like that.

True to a certain extent but you would still have a black hole at RT and LG
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We also did it with Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis.

Im glad more fans are seemingly on the fix the O-line train as opposed to giving up a ransom of picks for a QB to start behind our one man O-line.

Sign Williams, Mack, and draft Slater and a center later. I believe the lineup below would give us time to incorporate more passes outside of the numbers and deep passes.

T. Williams/S. Coleman/Justin Skule (loser of Skule and Coleman is likely cut)
L. Tomlinson/C. McKivitz/Ben Garland
Alex Mack/rookie/Ben Garland
R. Slater/Ben Garland/C. McKivitz
Mike McGlinchey/Dan Brunskill

Pretty deep at O-line with 10 guys, but that lineup should give us some versatility, insurance for injury, guys that can actually challenge the starters at most positions, and raises the floor in terms of PP potential of the O-line.

Good post!

JG would improve imensley behind a line like that.

True to a certain extent but you would still have a black hole at RT and LG

Brunskill can push McGlinchey and I'd be okay with him starting. We aren't going to upgrade all 4 positions in one offseason, but I do think that IOL lineup looks far better than any we have had since Kyle got hired.
It'll be interesting to see how Mahomes fares tonight without one of his top T's. Let's see if the officials let their OL hold on every down like last year against us. Bucs are going to bring it! Brady is 2 for 5 against their DC though.

OL and pass protection is going to be huge for both guys tonight for different reasons.

Pay attention and watch the trenches.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 7, 2021 at 10:54 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
It'll be interesting to see how Mahomes fares tonight without one of his top T's. Let's see if the officials let their OL hold on every down like last year against us. Bucs are going to bring it! Brady is 2 for 5 against their DC though.

OL and pass protection is going to be huge for both guys tonight for different reasons.

Pay attention and watch the trenches.

Great take & completely agree
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It'll be interesting to see how Mahomes fares tonight without one of his top T's. Let's see if the officials let their OL hold on every down like last year against us. Bucs are going to bring it! Brady is 2 for 5 against their DC though.

OL and pass protection is going to be huge for both guys tonight for different reasons.

Pay attention and watch the trenches.

Great take & completely agree

Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It'll be interesting to see how Mahomes fares tonight without one of his top T's. Let's see if the officials let their OL hold on every down like last year against us. Bucs are going to bring it! Brady is 2 for 5 against their DC though.

OL and pass protection is going to be huge for both guys tonight for different reasons.

Pay attention and watch the trenches.

Great take & completely agree

yeah but is the backup rt going to get ragdolled and bulled over like mcg? unlikely

"Mahomes had no time to throw." 2:12 minutes in.
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