Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Mahommes looked s**ttier this superbowl than jimmy g last superbowl
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Feb 7, 2021 at 7:40 PM
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Feb 7, 2021 at 7:44 PM
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Mahommes looked s**ttier this superbowl than jimmy g last superbowl
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Feb 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Mahommes looked s**ttier this superbowl than jimmy g last superbowl
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And Jimmy played it with an horrid OL as well.
Feb 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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So should we give up our top picks in this year and next year's draft for one of those mobile QBs or are we going to invest in Oline AND Dline?
Feb 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Mahommes looked s**ttier this superbowl than jimmy g last superbowl
26/49, 270 yards, 5.5 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT. $500 million QB in the SB.
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:10 PM
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Mahommes looked s**ttier this superbowl than jimmy g last superbowl
To drive that home: PH today 52.3 QBR
JG last year is SB: 101.2 QBR
And just so it's noted, TB with a 125.8 QBR today
Jimmy wasn't a beast like Brady but he sure as hell outplayed Mahommes today. And for 3 quarters he outplayed him in the game last year when they went head to head.
And I would argue the Bucs D wasn't as good as ours last year. I think our pass rush was better.(The Chiefs weren't allowed to hold them like against us last year. The anointed one had to win a ring)
Get some lineman damnit
[ Edited by RedGoldSquatch on Feb 7, 2021 at 8:12 PM ]
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:14 PM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
So should we give up our top picks in this year and next year's draft for one of those mobile QBs or are we going to invest in Oline AND Dline?
Keep investing on the trenches. John Lynch himself won a ring with Tampa with a meh QB but elite trenches.
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
So should we give up our top picks in this year and next year's draft for one of those mobile QBs or are we going to invest in Oline AND Dline?
How about both? Doesn't have to be or the other
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:22 PM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
How about both? Doesn't have to be or the other
If you're trading away all your top picks for years to come, you're greatly reducing your ability to improve the OL and DL. Mahomes is an amazing QB but without top notch pass blocking, he looked incredibly ordinary.
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:25 PM
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It was in interesting stat they showed ranking TB's Oline as 2nd in pass protection but 28th in the run this year considering our HC overvalues run blocking vs the pass.
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Feb 7, 2021 at 8:43 PM
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Originally posted by jcs:
It was in interesting stat they showed ranking TB's Oline as 2nd in pass protection but 28th in the run this year considering our HC overvalues run blocking vs the pass.
You forgot the part where one teams offense is designed to be a pass first offense and the other is trying to be balanced.
Feb 7, 2021 at 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by lamontb:
How about both? Doesn't have to be or the other
If you're trading away all your top picks for years to come, you're greatly reducing your ability to improve the OL and DL. Mahomes is an amazing QB but without top notch pass blocking, he looked incredibly ordinary.
Ergo, if we want a really good QB, then get an OL that can protect him. PHX just posted the obvious. Mahomes, as great as he is....still needs an OL to protect him. Without that OL protection, he looked....well, rather ordinary. Sure he made some spectacular passes falling down, thrown 60 yds, across his body and so on....but with a dysfunctional OL....they were all incomplete. Basically , this is exactly what applies to JimmyG....protect him and like 2019 we go to the SB. If you don't, well....
And don't think Mullie, and CJ played weren't badly affected playing behind a terrible OL, because they were.
Feb 8, 2021 at 1:36 AM
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Here's the difference in the game - lines represent path taken by QB's on pass plays from shotgun formation.
— Bozak Horseman (@BozakHorseman) February 8, 2021
Red lines are completions. Mahomes on top, Brady on bottom. KC OL was an embarrassment.#Chiefs #SBLV pic.twitter.com/v0fOgQBjwi
Feb 8, 2021 at 5:02 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:
Here's the difference in the game - lines represent path taken by QB's on pass plays from shotgun formation.
— Bozak Horseman (@BozakHorseman) February 8, 2021
Red lines are completions. Mahomes on top, Brady on bottom. KC OL was an embarrassment.#Chiefs #SBLV pic.twitter.com/v0fOgQBjwi
Crazy.
Feb 8, 2021 at 6:21 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by lamontb:
How about both? Doesn't have to be or the other
If you're trading away all your top picks for years to come, you're greatly reducing your ability to improve the OL and DL. Mahomes is an amazing QB but without top notch pass blocking, he looked incredibly ordinary.
You're freeing up a ton of cash which you can invest back into the OL. So yeah you can have both.
There's a s**t ton of clips popping up this AM of Mahomes extending plays (because his 1st read was gone and was pressured at that point) and hitting dudes right in the hands all game. Dropped balls was an issue, without questions. They also did not help out the backup OTs
KC used 5 man protection on 92% of dropbacks (48 of 52). They left those two backup OT's w/o help & it was a big mistake. h/t @NextGenStats
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 8, 2021
That's on the head coach.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 8, 2021 at 6:38 AM ]