Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup. Mahomes would look like that every Sunday behind our pass protection. We would have ruined him. I guess a "transcendent QB" can't overcompensate for poor pass protection. Odd. Especially with all the examples of transcendent QB's getting smoked in Superbowls from Brady himself to Mahomes (whispers Garoppolo too).
KC got a taste of what happens when you have to shift everyone because of injuries. Turns out NO ONE in the league has the depth to overcome that, which was one of the major points being made in this thread.
9ers are 13-3 with Mahomes at the helm even with this O line. Again PFF had this line in the top 10, not because it's great, but because NO ONE has any pass protection consistency throughout the NFL except for a few teams. And even those teams have no depth as exhibited on Sunday. But as NY stated a better qb can instantly transform pass protection as the Brady stat evidenced. Not to say they shouldn't draft lineman this year because they absolutely should. This is the year to get the day 2 prospects.
I agree with Lombardi85 when he says why not upgrade *both* QB and OLine. I think they have the draft ammo to do both. Kyle has the RB position locked in. He has 3 fifth round picks and a high number 12 pick. On top of that, this years free agency is for teams with cap space, and we have a decent amount available (AB81 says so
). First round QB 2nd round Edge rusher and 3rd round OLineman and with the lucky 5th rounder picks, choose three hall of fame players! 
Giedi, we see pretty much the same on most issues. Going QB 1st (at 12 or wherever we go down or up to) would be where I would get either a top flite Center or OG/C. Problem with that tho is Kyle isn't going OL in rd 1. That's why i would like to see us drop back into uppper 20s and get another 2nd plus draft that OG/C or Center. Almost surely it has to be a Center as KYle just doesn't spend on OGs.
Then with extra 2nd pick up a QB there (IF, IF kyle thinks he can work with him and make him something special). If not get a qB later. Or own 2nd rd pick DE, unless a starter C could be gotten with out 2nd pick and we take DE later in rd 1. A lot has to do with BPA in all case scenarios. My real hope tho, is to pick up Mack at C....if his Medical is clean. I'd still get a C or OG/C in rd 3 plus a starter OG in first 3 rds.
Jimmy is the guy, but HEALTH is THE issue. As has been said many times if you aren't available, you can't help us. Cases in point: Richburg, Dee, Hurd, Pettis. And two of those we have way too much $$ wasted , while the other two were both moved up for (draft capital loss). Granted, it's impossible to know this stuff ahead of time but with Richburg at least and Dee a tiny bit, some evidence was there. Hurd we knew about and Pettis was just a shocker....same goes for McK...total waste...but good intentions by F.O.
Re: getting 1st rd talent at QB at #12 is , well....Mahomes was picked at #12 i believe. It doesnt' have to be Lawrence....but it does have to be someone with real QB talent who kyle can work with. If jimmy comes up gimp again this yr...ok...i am out. But if he recovers and we fix the OL with a starting C and OG in first 3 rds, i prefer that route.
One thing about kyle and QBs, tho...he seems not to have the same crystal ball he does for RBs and TEs. Hoyer, Kirk, CJ, and unfortunately Mullie, altho he did have 8 games where he looked good. But that No- OL business, wiped Mullie and CJ out...and Hoyer was a mistake from the get go.
Like you said, who, after Brady is better amongst QBs in their 30s? So count on him to be healthy altho i have to admit the health thing is a sticky wicket.
