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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Folks blaming the coaching with the Chiefs, but still Jimmy was to blame a poor blocking in the 4th. How the narrative changed once we're removed from the actual event. Seems like when I read articles written closer to last year's loss at the SB, it reads very much what people are saying about Reid and the blocking vs Jimmy's performance...

Through 3.5 quarters of Super Bowl 54, the 49ers led the Chiefs, 20-10. Garoppolo's numbers looked like this:
    22 passes
    18 completions
    195 yards
    8.9 yards per pass
    1 touchdown
    1 interception
    a 99.8 passer rating

Those are Super Bowl MVP numbers! But he was also buoyed by rushing game that had run for 109 yards on only 17 touches. Shanahan, as he is wont to do in the Super Bowl with a lead, turned away from the run. The Niners ran the ball just five times in the fourth quarter, one of which was a Garoppolo scramble on third-and-long. That made sense when San Francisco was working on a comeback in the final three minutes, but not as much in the 12 minutes that preceded it.

This focused the spotlight on Garoppolo, who couldn't withstand the pressure. His final four drives, all in the fourth quarter, ended with a punt, punt, turnover on downs, and an interception. He completed only two of his final nine passes as the Chiefs crashed through his line and forced him to step up and attempt throws in the face of newfound pressure:



That push up front messed with Garoppolo's timing, forced him into bad throws, and effectively scrambled his circuits. He suddenly couldn't hit targets downfield. His passes got swallowed up at the line of scrimmage as Kansas City blew through play-action fakes that didn't fool anyone.

Per Pro Football Focus's Eric Eager, Garoppolo completed just one of his nine passes when the Chiefs brought pressure. Kansas City turned the opportunity created by the Niners' stagnant offense into back-to-back touchdowns and a lead with less than three minutes to play.

That left Garoppolo to attempt a game-winning drive in the Super Bowl — and after guiding San Francisco to its own 49-yard line, he threw the one pass he'll most want back from Sunday night:

3rd and 10 - game on the line, wide open WR for the score and this happens - What is Jimmy Garoppolo's future ? #SFvsKC #49ers #GoNiners #Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom #SuperBowl #NFL #NFL100 #SportsTalkLine pic.twitter.com/UydkwOMDg5

— Steven Van Over (@StevenVanOver) February 3, 2020
Garoppolo made the right risk on third-and-10 to target an open Emmanuel Sanders deep downfield. He just threw the wrong pass. One play later, the Chiefs' pass rush would envelop him up on fourth down for what was effectively a game-clinching sack. He'd try one more deep pass on the night. It was intercepted in what turned out to be the Niners' last offensive snap of the 2019 season.

This doesn't have to be Garoppolo's legacy (but it might be)When the pressure was dialed up to max, from both a Super Bowl and pass rush standpoint, Garoppolo faded. He couldn't see through the fog of the Chiefs' onslaught, and that doomed Shanahan's pass-heavy approach to the fourth quarter. While San Francisco couldn't afford to let off the gas against Kansas City, Steve Spagnuolo's blitz-heavy defense meant the 49ers couldn't effectively pass, either.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/2/3/21119610/jimmy-garoppolo-49ers-super-bowl-2020-chiefs

Wow that last line reads like 50 tweets I've read since yesterday. And to the earlier bolded, who says a back-up center can't cost you a game especially if it's the wrong protection call in this offense?

Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Did you see the score on the gif? Our HC/OC forgot about the run game in that 4th quarter completely. It bought KC the time to get momentum and win the game after Mahomes was having one of the worst SB performances for a QB in history over the first 3 quarters.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Feb 8, 2021 at 3:39 PM ]
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

The difference is Jimmy was helpless under that pressure. Mahomes was at least able to roll out and make a few little plays despite the pressure. That's what being mobile can do. It wasn't enough to win the game but it kept him alive. Jimmy was 18-22 in the first 3 quarters. Then it all crumbled. Imagine his numbers if he was under that pressure that TB was putting on all day. The running game helped a lot in those first 3 quarters and kept them from rushing the passer as much. At the end, KC just decided that they couldn't worry about the run and needed to pressure JG so they could get the ball back.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB

Nobody has ever done anything like that because it's a dumb pass attempt. That pass was thrown into triple coverage and luckily slipped through a Buc players hands before hitting his receiver in the head. It probably should have been picked.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB

Nobody has ever done anything like that because it's a dumb pass attempt. That pass was thrown into triple coverage and luckily slipped through a Buc players hands before hitting his receiver in the head. It probably should have been picked.
i'm not talking about that exact pass, but putting the ball on the receivers. Mahomes while running for his life got the ball to their receivers, but the receivers dropped the ball too many times
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Feb 8, 2021 at 3:45 PM ]
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB

Nobody has ever done anything like that because it's a dumb pass attempt. That pass was thrown into triple coverage and luckily slipped through a Buc players hands before hitting his receiver in the head. It probably should have been picked.

LOL it was a dumb attempt to try to make something happen on 4th and 9 down 22 points in the 4th quarter? Yeah you are right. He probably should have just thrown it away.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

The difference is Jimmy was helpless under that pressure. Mahomes was at least able to roll out and make a few little plays despite the pressure. That's what being mobile can do. It wasn't enough to win the game but it kept him alive. Jimmy was 18-22 in the first 3 quarters. Then it all crumbled. Imagine his numbers if he was under that pressure that TB was putting on all day. The running game helped a lot in those first 3 quarters and kept them from rushing the passer as much. At the end, KC just decided that they couldn't worry about the run and needed to pressure JG so they could get the ball back.

It certainly kept a lot of plays alive (many unnecessary ghost pressure plays too) but it almost got him seriously hurt too. He was reduced to a one-read scrambling college QB. Fun. Entertaining. Backyard. Memorable. Low %. Hurt.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB

Nobody has ever done anything like that because it's a dumb pass attempt. That pass was thrown into triple coverage and luckily slipped through a Buc players hands before hitting his receiver in the head. It probably should have been picked.

LOL it was a dumb attempt to try to make something happen on 4th and 9 down 22 points in the 4th quarter? Yeah you are right. He probably should have just thrown it away.

It was dumb. Mahomes biggest fault is also what makes him a unique player. He doesn't give up on plays and will rely too much on his arm and ability to buy time when he should be playing more disciplined and taking his checkdown like Brady did for much of the same game.

Toward the end of that 4th quarter he was scrambling just to scramble blowing any as semblance of rhythm and timing for the entire offense.

Hero ball didn't bail him out this time and who knows TB may have just figured his game out and now the rest of the league can attempt to duplicate it.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL

whats crazy is that pass hit the receiver in the face in the end zone

i love jimmy, but i don't remember Jimmy dong anything like that when pressured in the SB

Nobody has ever done anything like that because it's a dumb pass attempt. That pass was thrown into triple coverage and luckily slipped through a Buc players hands before hitting his receiver in the head. It probably should have been picked.

LOL it was a dumb attempt to try to make something happen on 4th and 9 down 22 points in the 4th quarter? Yeah you are right. He probably should have just thrown it away.

It was dumb. Mahomes biggest fault is also what makes him a unique player. He doesn't give up on plays and will rely too much on his arm and ability to buy time when he should be playing more disciplined and taking his checkdown like Brady did for much of the same game.

Toward the end of that 4th quarter he was scrambling just to scramble blowing any as semblance of rhythm and timing for the entire offense.

Hero ball didn't bail him out this time and who knows TB may have just figured his game out and now the rest of the league can attempt to duplicate it.

LOL. Stopped reading at the bolded. I thought you might have forgotten the situation under which the play was attempted (4th and 9, down 22, 13 something minutes left), but you inexplicably doubled down on it being a dumb play. SMFH.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Feb 8, 2021 at 4:04 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL


And hit Hill right in the face. One of 3 missed TDs
Originally posted by jcs:
It was dumb. Mahomes biggest fault is also what makes him a unique player. He doesn't give up on plays and will rely too much on his arm and ability to buy time when he should be playing more disciplined and taking his checkdown like Brady did for much of the same game.

Toward the end of that 4th quarter he was scrambling just to scramble blowing any as semblance of rhythm and timing for the entire offense.

Hero ball didn't bail him out this time and who knows TB may have just figured his game out and now the rest of the league can attempt to duplicate it.

It's was 4th down and they're down like 20+ pts. Hero ball lol
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL


And hit Hill right in the face. One of 3 missed TDs

Hard to believe some are still making excuses for Jimmy's 4th quarter superbowl performance.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Worst 4th QB rating in SB history. Missed reads all game.

Lol. Exactly what I talked about in the Jimmy thread with catch. He said, "Jimmy didn't get pressured til the 4th quarter".

When mahomes gets that pressure, "he still made a heroic effort!"
Jimmy: ☝

Transcending. LOL


And hit Hill right in the face. One of 3 missed TDs

Yeah, those backyard ball triple coverage unpredictable timing throws typically do lead to some drops. But you gotta applaud him for giving it the ol' college try.
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