Originally posted by NinerGM:
Correct 7 years sitting behind a HOF QB, **but ** without a lot of playing time. You and I both know a QB gets better playing (after a point), not sitting. He had the perfect scenario as a back-up. And you're right he had the (somewhat) prefect scenario *** as a starter in 2019 *** and what was the result? And let's be honest off-season 2019 had A LOT of questions at WR and OL. No one had us slated for a SB appearance.
So what is it then? I got people telling me if we draft a QB he has to sit for a yr to "learn". Now it's hey he's gotta play to develop? Shoot you can't do both, this league doesn't have time for that anymore. Look at all these QBs getting tossed around. Outside of Stafford none of them are older then Jimmy.
Why is it that Jimmy has literally no trade market? If he was even the slightest good, we'd have some sort of report saying teams were willing to give up something....crickets. We got the Colts willing to give up a couple 2nds for Wentz lol. Dude is a horrible teammate, went rouge on his HC, and has been injured more than Jimmy, plus has a big ol' fat contract. Even he's getting a look. Darnold who's played worse is getting takers. nothing for Jimmy? Why should we be the team that has to invest into him even more then?
I think we need to face it and realize Jimmy is who he is an avg starting QB in the NFL. We can talk about his "stats" from 2019, but that can be broken down to show they're not overall that impressive. His stats are right on par with Case Keenum from his 2017 run with the Vikings. I think Jimmy is better, but not by some wide margin. He's had same damn good situations since coming into the league. You can't say that for a lot of these young highly drafted QBs.
That 2019 had more to do with just being capable to run the offense, then it did with him actually making this team a whole hell of a lot better. His margin of error in 2019 was the size of Rhode island. He had a top 2 defense and running game. He had some of the lowest metrics in regards to depth of target and yet was one of the higher QBs in INT % (that's not good). They didn't have some murders row at the beginning of the season either.
IMO Kyle is a boss end of the day with play-calling. I mean go look at freaking 2017 with Hoyer and a MUCH worse roster....5 of his 6 starts they lost by 3 pts or less. Hoyer is garbage & so was that roster BUT they still were in all those games. That's one Kyle. How about we go get a legit QB for him to grow with??
All I'm saying is SF can NOT put all their eggs in the Jimmy G basket again. There has to be some sort of plan beyond 2021. I don't think anyone truly believes he's gonna get another contract here. Do you? So then what? We go say 9-8 or 9-7 this yr (with a watered down roster) and have no shot at a rookie QB (in what looks like a worse draft)? What happens if Jimmy does what he's done here and in NE an gets hurt? Another lost season with some random backup? I'm not sure how many more seasons Lynch/Kyle get a pass for doing that....Outside of having Jimmy gifted to them, they done nothing to get better at the QB position. If the plan is to wait for Kirk or old man Ryan in a yr or two
This is the yr they need to make a play...if they don't win the SB big deal...if they get a FQB that's vastly more important. I want yr after yr of being a contender. I just don't understand how people are okay with not taking a shot to improve at the one position that makes everything better (including OL)?
sorry for the long response
s**t gets me fired up lol.
