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The addition of Mack at center will be, by far, thr biggest thing. Most fans don't really understand how bad their adjustments were last year and how that's on the center. The unexpected loss of Richburg due to the shoulder problems was the bigger than we all have considered.
I would still like to see them add 4 more OL either through FA or the draft. We need a quality backup/developmental player behind Mack and it also wouldn't hurt to add swap out our starting RG and LG and RT. We also could use another solid backup tackle to sit behind Trent and the new starting RT.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
we got us a solid ass OL for 2021

Still need a starting RG and some depth to develop and push guys like McG

dont need to take anyone early in the draft for that though.

This coaching staff hasn't developed any late round starting talent on the oline since Kyle has been hc imo. We need to invest early in the draft to get best possible player in there.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Don't count out A.Donald's Daddy at RG. He wasn't given a fair chance to compete and keep the RG job he won fair and square in TC last year. He had to move to Center due to injuries playing a new position on the go. It's Brunskill's job to lose imo. He was playing good ball before the move to C.

Keep in mind they only tendered Brunskill unlike Moseley, who they extended. That might be a signal they aren't sold on him as a starter...high quality swing-T and first off the bench at G, 3rd C.

Good point.
Best case for me is draft a iOL in the middle rounds like Green or Morrissey to compete with Brunskill at RG and groom behind Mack for the future. They don't need to spend high draft picks on G/C, save those high picks for best skilled players available where the cream of the crop is.
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Don't count out A.Donald's Daddy at RG. He wasn't given a fair chance to compete and keep the RG job he won fair and square in TC last year. He had to move to Center due to injuries playing a new position on the go. It's Brunskill's job to lose imo. He was playing good ball before the move to C.

Keep in mind they only tendered Brunskill unlike Moseley, who they extended. That might be a signal they aren't sold on him as a starter...high quality swing-T and first off the bench at G, 3rd C.

Good point.
Best case for me is draft a iOL in the middle rounds like Green or Morrissey to compete with Brunskill at RG and groom behind Mack for the future. They don't need to spend high draft picks on G/C, save those high picks for best skilled players available where the cream of the crop is.

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Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Mack is the Richard Sherman of C's. His leadership, film study and mentorship is an excellent addition. We still need to find his young long term replacement though and we'll now need to use a draft pick on C. Like with Sherman, we never found or trained his young long term solution. I hope that's not the case here.

TW was a no-brainer retaining move. And well done!

We still need to ADD talent to a unit that got destroyed again last year in PP.

The good news is Mack only gave up 1 sack last year. Tomlinson is still one of the worst G's in the league in PP despite playing next to 2 HOF T's.

If they can upgrade the RG spot significantly, you can expect MM to play much better in a contract year.

Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Slater - McGlinchey

Almost there!
Team Slater!!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea we need to sign a guard and swing tackle for depth.

no we don't....they have like 3 swing tackles.

They will more than likely draft another IOL

Who are our current swing tackles? I ,must be forgetting somebody.

It should be Coleman and Brunskill.

Hopefully.

Slater is a need because of MM. If Mike plays well, he's likely gone due to money. If he plays poorly, he's gone due to play. They can't have that much tied up at tackle.

There are several good tackle late first they don't have to take Slater at 12. The draft is wide open now. They can move up or down. Grab a Qb or fill one of the actual glaring holes they have left like edge or cb. I feel if they don't move up for qb then they will be trying to move down. What ever the outcome I feel they are in a great spot to improve this team for now and the future.

True but not many can play RG to start. He's special.

Yeah I get it and I would not be upset with the pick but he is not a must have now. At this point I think edge,QB is priority with db running a close second. I would say that Pitts or even one of the top wrs could be had at 12 and be just as valuable.

Very understandable.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Don't count out A.Donald's Daddy at RG. He wasn't given a fair chance to compete and keep the RG job he won fair and square in TC last year. He had to move to Center due to injuries playing a new position on the go. It's Brunskill's job to lose imo. He was playing good ball before the move to C.

Keep in mind they only tendered Brunskill unlike Moseley, who they extended. That might be a signal they aren't sold on him as a starter...high quality swing-T and first off the bench at G, 3rd C.

Good point.
Best case for me is draft a iOL in the middle rounds like Green or Morrissey to compete with Brunskill at RG and groom behind Mack for the future. They don't need to spend high draft picks on G/C, save those high picks for best skilled players available where the cream of the crop is.

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Still, , i keep going back to the Rams game where Brun just stymied Donald. That may have been an aberration but he either beat Donald every play or it was a draw. The film of Brun in that one Rams game really changed my mind on him. Still, no way of knowing why the F.O did as noted above.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
The addition of Mack at center will be, by far, thr biggest thing. Most fans don't really understand how bad their adjustments were last year and how that's on the center. The unexpected loss of Richburg due to the shoulder problems was the bigger than we all have considered.

Not me. Hehe

This is the single most important thing he brings especially in this offense, where the C makes the call. That's why it's crucial to get a talented young rookie in here to start learning this aspect of the game. It's going to take some time.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Still, , i keep going back to the Rams game where Brun just stymied Donald. That may have been an aberration but he either beat Donald every play or it was a draw. The film of Brun in that one Rams game really changed my mind on him. Still, no way of knowing why the F.O did as noted above.

Yeah, always give credit where credit is due. He kicked sss that game IIRC.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Exactly. This is where things get weird for me; I hope Foerster hasn't fallen in love with any player (like he did with Rachal) and will be honest about all players on the OL. McGs issues were with technique. He has the tools but if your brain is in the way, oh well. They see Brunskill as strictly a BU, a little better than Garland - and they should. Let's raise the bar on OL performance.

Agreed. This will get us wins against teams we should beat IMHO - provided we add edge talent along with a good zone CB. RT still must be addressed with RG. This stabilizes the patient.

yeah that was more embarrassing than his cocaine problem
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I would still like to see them add 4 more OL either through FA or the draft. We need a quality backup/developmental player behind Mack and it also wouldn't hurt to add swap out our starting RG and LG and RT. We also could use another solid backup tackle to sit behind Trent and the new starting RT.

4 more you say....so go into camp with what 15- 16 linemen. lol
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Don't count out A.Donald's Daddy at RG. He wasn't given a fair chance to compete and keep the RG job he won fair and square in TC last year. He had to move to Center due to injuries playing a new position on the go. It's Brunskill's job to lose imo. He was playing good ball before the move to C.

Keep in mind they only tendered Brunskill unlike Moseley, who they extended. That might be a signal they aren't sold on him as a starter...high quality swing-T and first off the bench at G, 3rd C.

Good point.
Best case for me is draft a iOL in the middle rounds like Green or Morrissey to compete with Brunskill at RG and groom behind Mack for the future. They don't need to spend high draft picks on G/C, save those high picks for best skilled players available where the cream of the crop is.

I couldn't disagree more. One injury to Mack and we are right back where we were last year. C/RG needs to be priority #1, or 2nd round at the latest.
[ Edited by TheXFactor on Mar 17, 2021 at 11:39 AM ]
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I couldn't disgree more. One injurt to Mac and we are right back where we were last year. C/RG needs to be priority #1, or 2nd round at the latest.

XFactor learns from the past!
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I would still like to see them add 4 more OL either through FA or the draft. We need a quality backup/developmental player behind Mack and it also wouldn't hurt to add swap out our starting RG and LG and RT. We also could use another solid backup tackle to sit behind Trent and the new starting RT.

4 more you say....so go into camp with what 15- 16 linemen. lol

Haha. That's even extreme for me. But I like where his head is at.
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I would still like to see them add 4 more OL either through FA or the draft. We need a quality backup/developmental player behind Mack and it also wouldn't hurt to add swap out our starting RG and LG and RT. We also could use another solid backup tackle to sit behind Trent and the new starting RT.

4 more you say....so go into camp with what 15- 16 linemen. lol

Presumably we would figure out a way to get rid of the bad ones or at least some of the bad ones. Right now we have two decent or better offensive linemen in Mack and TW and they're both old or getting old, so we have a lot of work to do.
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