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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jcs:
Cap doest stay stagnant and the league is going to sign new TV deals soon.

Those cap hits don't stay stagnate either...AA gonna be $20M in 2022, Trent will be around there, Kittle will be $16M etc You got Deebo, Warner, Bosa do for good size contract sooner than later. those 5th yr options are cheap anymore if they play well.

you can't pay everyone regardless of what people say. I mean unless you think SF isn't gonna pay Bosa or Warner in favor of keeping Jimmy? He's gonna be due a contract if you're not drafting QB as well.

IMO they will be looking at QBs and making a move if it's doable without question.

You can restructure his deal. I just love when the salary cap is a problem on the future but when it concerns a top free agent it's not a problem all of a sudden by our fanbase.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
T. Williams - L. Tomlinson - A. Mack - D. Brunskill/rookie - Glinch

Jimmy G. has no more excuses. We have a whole SB team returning healthy. I fully expect Jimmy G. to get this team back to the SB, and win this time. Anything less is a bust.

His supporters will always have an excuse if he doesn't do well. Line didn't play well. Receivers can't get open or they drop too many passes. Shanny won't turn him loose. His knee is still bothering him. All things that nearly every QB faces each week.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by FL9er:
How mad are you and GM going to be when they don't draft an OL in the 1st? Slater might be gone by 12 anyway.

They be going atomic mad! Webzone might not survive.

Not me. I'm mocking us to take a CB in the first.

Patrick Surtain II, Come on down!
[ Edited by jonnydel on Mar 17, 2021 at 1:01 PM ]
Originally posted by falconshane:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
T. Williams - L. Tomlinson - A. Mack - D. Brunskill/rookie - Glinch

Jimmy G. has no more excuses. We have a whole SB team returning healthy. I fully expect Jimmy G. to get this team back to the SB, and win this time. Anything less is a bust.

Unless Tomlinson puts his QB on I.R. again x2. Or the rookie RG...or MM in PP too.

You see this is the crap that makes our fanbase terrible. we go out and resign the best left tackle on the market, sign a solid center which you wanted and that still isn't good enough for you. Apparently you want 5 all pros on the offensive line and then when we do that you're gonna say "oh now we need a secondary or we need more edge rushers" because theirs nothing you and all niner fans won't complain about. This is why we have the worst fanbase in the nfl because nobody appreciates what a great job lynch and shanahan did to rebuild a dumpster fire organization into a solid team that can compete for championships

Stop!

Talking about adding a talented rookie to learn from Mack for a year and adding Slater at RG because he can play RG (now)/RT(next year) in case they don't 5th year option McGlinchey is what makes us the worst fansbase?



Stop.
Originally posted by falconshane:
You can restructure his deal. I just love when the salary cap is a problem on the future but when it concerns a top free agent it's not a problem all of a sudden by our fanbase.

restructure who? Jimmy? he's only got one yr left after this yr....there's nothing left to restructure, it would be giving him a brand new contract. You doing that? You gonna commit to him for another 4/5 yrs? I'm not and I don't think this FO is either.

Nah dude you can't pay everyone....you can pay your core guys and restructure their deals because you KNOW they will be playing at a high level long-term...it's what the Rams did with Donald/Ramsey and what KC did with Hill/Mahomes.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Patrick Surtain II, Come on down!

no thank you.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by falconshane:
You can restructure his deal. I just love when the salary cap is a problem on the future but when it concerns a top free agent it's not a problem all of a sudden by our fanbase.

restructure who? Jimmy? he's only got one yr left after this yr....there's nothing left to restructure, it would be giving him a brand new contract. You doing that? You gonna commit to him for another 4/5 yrs? I'm not and I don't think this FO is either.

Nah dude you can't pay everyone....you can pay your core guys and restructure their deals because you KNOW they will be playing at a high level long-term...it's what the Rams did with Donald/Ramsey and what KC did with Hill/Mahomes.

The cap is probably jumping up to 240 million which is a near 50 million increase next year. If jimmy g is the guy we can extend him after this season and if he's not we can cut or trade him and save a lot of money. Plus theirs a lot of contracts that you can list back when the salary cap keeps spiking up because if the new tv deals. Plenty of money
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by falconshane:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
T. Williams - L. Tomlinson - A. Mack - D. Brunskill/rookie - Glinch

Jimmy G. has no more excuses. We have a whole SB team returning healthy. I fully expect Jimmy G. to get this team back to the SB, and win this time. Anything less is a bust.

Unless Tomlinson puts his QB on I.R. again x2. Or the rookie RG...or MM in PP too.

You see this is the crap that makes our fanbase terrible. we go out and resign the best left tackle on the market, sign a solid center which you wanted and that still isn't good enough for you. Apparently you want 5 all pros on the offensive line and then when we do that you're gonna say "oh now we need a secondary or we need more edge rushers" because theirs nothing you and all niner fans won't complain about. This is why we have the worst fanbase in the nfl because nobody appreciates what a great job lynch and shanahan did to rebuild a dumpster fire organization into a solid team that can compete for championships

Stop!

Talking about adding a talented rookie to learn from Mack for a year and adding Slater at RG because he can play RG (now)/RT(next year) in case they don't 5th year option McGlinchey is what makes us the worst fansbase?



Stop.

Yup. You can't draft slater at right guard when he's a tackle. Williams sucks according to you. Mack sucks according to you. This system requires an elite center and 2 elite tackles. We have those 3 positions locked up whether or not you thinks mcglinchey sucks (when he doesn't according to his pretty good run blocking pff ranking which never gets pointed out). But whatever apparently the niners can do no good according to niner fans
Originally posted by falconshane:
The cap is probably jumping up to 240 million which is a near 50 million increase next year. If jimmy g is the guy we can extend him after this season and if he's not we can cut or trade him and save a lot of money. Plus theirs a lot of contracts that you can list back when the salary cap keeps spiking up because if the new tv deals. Plenty of money

It's not gonna do that for like 5 yrs reportedly....it's not doing that in a yr or two lol.

And if he's cut whos the QB? What's the plan? You're in the same boat as you are right now only you don't even have Jimmy....THATS WHY drafting a QB high this yr allows you to groom a kid to learn this "complex offense" for a yr and come in ready to play.

You can then cut/trade or whatever with Jimmy in 2022. His contract allows them to do that.

Money goes up so does the contracts, it's not one or the other. Jimmy isn't the future dude...he's just not.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Patrick Surtain II, Come on down!

no thank you.

🤨 why not? His scouting report sounds almost identical to Sherm.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/patrick-surtain-ii-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report
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[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 17, 2021 at 1:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Patrick Surtain II, Come on down!

no thank you.

🤨 why not? His scouting report sounds almost identical to Sherm.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/patrick-surtain-ii-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report

This team isn't gonna spend up for a CB IMO. Defense is based around the DL. You can find good zone DBs later that fit the bill (yes I know they played a little more man this yr).

It's not that I think he's a bad prospect...I just don't see them drafting a CB high.
Originally posted by falconshane:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by falconshane:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
T. Williams - L. Tomlinson - A. Mack - D. Brunskill/rookie - Glinch

Jimmy G. has no more excuses. We have a whole SB team returning healthy. I fully expect Jimmy G. to get this team back to the SB, and win this time. Anything less is a bust.

Unless Tomlinson puts his QB on I.R. again x2. Or the rookie RG...or MM in PP too.

You see this is the crap that makes our fanbase terrible. we go out and resign the best left tackle on the market, sign a solid center which you wanted and that still isn't good enough for you. Apparently you want 5 all pros on the offensive line and then when we do that you're gonna say "oh now we need a secondary or we need more edge rushers" because theirs nothing you and all niner fans won't complain about. This is why we have the worst fanbase in the nfl because nobody appreciates what a great job lynch and shanahan did to rebuild a dumpster fire organization into a solid team that can compete for championships

Stop!

Talking about adding a talented rookie to learn from Mack for a year and adding Slater at RG because he can play RG (now)/RT(next year) in case they don't 5th year option McGlinchey is what makes us the worst fansbase?



Stop.

Yup. You can't draft slater at right guard when he's a tackle. Williams sucks according to you. Mack sucks according to you. This system requires an elite center and 2 elite tackles. We have those 3 positions locked up whether or not you thinks mcglinchey sucks (when he doesn't according to his pretty good run blocking pff ranking which never gets pointed out). But whatever apparently the niners can do no good according to niner fans

It looks like Goldensnake is back.

No wonder. Where you been?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Not me. I'm mocking us to take a CB in the first.

I don't see that happening at all....our defense is built around the DL and getting pressure on the QB. They run some sort of zone shell like 70% of the time.

You're not drafting a zone corner at 12 overall. That's for straight up man/press guys and we don't do that overall.

Ton of good zone guys in the middle rounds.

if you think they're drafting CB you're gonna be let down.

Well, I won't be let down if we drafted at another position with our first pick. Imma be happy with whatever we draft.

Two of the top 3 CB's coming out can play zone, man, and press. One or two will be available to us at 12.

I think it's wrong thinking to say or suggest that first round CB's is only reserved for press-man CB's, or that a draftee is only a man or zone CB. To me that kind of thinking is little better than dogma. It wrongly suggests that a CB used mostly for man in collage can't play in NFL zone schemes, or vis-à-vis. How do you know if the collage DC just wasn't asking him to play much man, or vis-à-vis? As a coach myself I can tell you I do that a lot. DeMeco Ryans is the DC now, and you don't know what his philosophy is when it comes to the zone-man ratio. We know that Salah favors and deploys more complicated zone concepts. We have no clue if Ryans will do the same. So you cannot use last season's zone-man ratio to predict this seasons. Coaches who run the same scheme can have two totally different philosophy's on running it - aggressive vs don't bent don't break, zone vs man vs. balanced, blitz pressure vs. cover pressure. In todays NFL you have to have CB's who can at least adequately play man and zone, especially for a Shanny-ran team who demands flexibility up and down the roster. Otherwise that CB is a liability.

Perhaps you don't see one of the CB spots as the hole for us as I do, and that's fine. Indeed there are a ton of capable "zone guys" in middle rounds. But are they day 1 starter guys? Absolutely not! And a day 1 starter is what we need to play opposite of Verrett, not another Weatherspoon we have to spend 2, 3, 4 seasons developing only to have to let him walk. No sir, we need top talent there.
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