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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
You just showed me a bunch of completed passes and a number of them under pressure.

Could some of the 'bigger' ones have been hit? Of course. But you also have to remember you're in a tight defensive battle against a top defense that knows you very well. Take the easier ones. Take the quick reads. And that strategy works great until the 4Q.

But I understand the desire to hit more explosives. There certainly could have been more shots or at least a "thought" to do that. We'll certainly see that more with Trey with his play making mindset and physical ability to do so.

You miss big play opportunities consistently you end up regretting it. Would've regretted it the week before too if not for Willis.

There's a lot of ways to look at this but I understand you here. Let's just hope we get a little more balance of those back in this offense.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Stafford a 100 rating under pressure. Theres the difference.

25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 27, 2022 at 4:21 PM ]
Originally posted by lamontb:
I'm with NC on this one. It was much bigger than jimmy against the Rams.

Of course it was, anyone who says otherwise is full of s**t.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Do you really believe that we win that game with the Rams OL?

You tell me. It's your hypothetical. And since you didn't read:

However, when it came to the post season, things were very different. Pff had LAR ranked 4th, giving up a pressure on 18.8% of their pass snaps. SF on the otherhand were ranked 13th (out of 14), giving up a pressure on 41.8% of their pass snaps.

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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Right side of OLine is still my biggest worry

Other than Trent, the rest of the OLine is my biggest worry.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Do you really believe that we win that game with the Rams OL?

You tell me. It's your hypothetical. And since you didn't read:

However, when it came to the post season, things were very different. Pff had LAR ranked 4th, giving up a pressure on 18.8% of their pass snaps. SF on the otherhand were ranked 13th (out of 14), giving up a pressure on 41.8% of their pass snaps.

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wouldn't passing less sku the %s ?
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:

You know, if you just want to take over this whole thread from here on out, I'll happily oblige.


Those are eye opening statistics.
Originally posted by NCommand:
25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.

I'm reading it fine. What Yac posted was the qbs play under pressure during the postseason. Stafford was much better and the difference.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.

I'm reading it fine. What Yac posted was the qbs play under pressure during the postseason. Stafford was much better and the difference.

Well, now we understand you better.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:

You know, if you just want to take over this whole thread from here on out, I'll happily oblige.


Those are eye opening statistics.

There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Do you really believe that we win that game with the Rams OL?

You tell me. It's your hypothetical. And since you didn't read:

However, when it came to the post season, things were very different. Pff had LAR ranked 4th, giving up a pressure on 18.8% of their pass snaps. SF on the otherhand were ranked 13th (out of 14), giving up a pressure on 41.8% of their pass snaps.

Quoting again for him.
wouldn't passing less sku the %s ?

It may not have mattered with the pressure. Couldn't run either. Not good enough. Neither of them.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.

I'm reading it fine. What Yac posted was the qbs play under pressure during the postseason. Stafford was much better and the difference.

For the most part, the less the QB was under pressure the better they were able to handle pressure. There were some outliers though and some surprises.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:

You know, if you just want to take over this whole thread from here on out, I'll happily oblige.


Those are eye opening statistics.

There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.

That one especially stood out to me. Well, Tom anyhow.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 27, 2022 at 4:35 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.

Be nice to see the contextual stats to go with that too. I mean you can complete a 3 yard pass when pressured on 3rd and 7 and it's nothing special but it helps pass rating.

Stafford was throwing darts under pressure in the NFC title game. That throw to Kupp past Kwaun with Bosa bearing down was amazing. That's something that qb rating can't quantify.

19 sacks can't be overstated. That's 19 huge negative plays. Those are worse than just a pressure. To make up for that and make the SB was so impressive. If only he would've been a bit more accurate in the SB they could've taken it.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.

I'm reading it fine. What Yac posted was the qbs play under pressure during the postseason. Stafford was much better and the difference.

For the most part, the less the QB was under pressure the better they were able to handle pressure. There were some outliers though and some surprises.

Exactly.
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