49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Stafford a 100 rating under pressure. Theres the difference.

Had no run game and Got the s**t beat out of him throughout the playoffs, but stood in there and made the plays when it counted with the heat on

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.

Be nice to see the contextual stats to go with that too. I mean you can complete a 3 yard pass when pressured on 3rd and 7 and it's nothing special but it helps pass rating.

Stafford was throwing darts under pressure in the NFC title game. That throw to Kupp past Kwaun with Bosa bearing down was amazing. That's something that qb rating can't quantify.

19 sacks can't be overstated. That's 19 huge negative plays. Those are worse than just a pressure. To make up for that and make the SB was so impressive. If only he would've been a bit more accurate in the SB they could've taken it.

Would Llike me to add ADOT?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Would Llike me to add ADOT?

Sure. That would tell more than just QB rating.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

You know, if you just want to take over this whole thread from here on out, I'll happily oblige.

Those are eye opening statistics.

There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.

was jones really solid lol

those numbers don't even tell half of the story

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Stafford a 100 rating under pressure. Theres the difference.

Had no run game and Got the s**t beat out of him throughout the playoffs, but stood in there and made the plays when it counted with the heat on

So many Rams fans in here. LOL j/k

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Had no run game and Got the s**t beat out of him throughout the playoffs, but stood in there and made the plays when it counted with the heat on

Need a QB who can beat the Bucs with a perfect deep throw with a guy bearing down on him. Hopefully that is Trey.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

You know, if you just want to take over this whole thread from here on out, I'll happily oblige.

Those are eye opening statistics.

There are a few things that really stood out to me. Joe Burrow was good enough under pressure to make the SB. We all pretty much knew that. Mac Jones was actually pretty solid under pressure. Big Ben and Tom Brady aren't what they used to be.

was jones really solid lol

those numbers don't even tell half of the story

The sharks are coming after you now YAC. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:
So many Rams fans in here. LOL j/k

Credit where credit is due.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
25% is not pressure. That's gold. And it was 18% against us. Like NY, you aren't reading what's right in front of you.

I'm reading it fine. What Yac posted was the qbs play under pressure during the postseason. Stafford was much better and the difference.

For the most part, the less the QB was under pressure the better they were able to handle pressure. There were some outliers though and some surprises.

Exactly.

Does passing attempts not factor into this equation?

Like technically we could have 25 less pressures than the next team but a higher pressure rate due to our low passing numbers.

I don't know the numbers off hand but I'm sure commitment to running the football factors into our pressure percentage.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Had no run game and Got the s**t beat out of him throughout the playoffs, but stood in there and made the plays when it counted with the heat on

Need a QB who can beat the Bucs with a perfect deep throw with a guy bearing down on him. Hopefully that is Trey.

Well what's interesting is previously when pressure rates were in the niners favor, you had folks saying "oh well what really constitutes a pressure?!"

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But when he didn't have pressure (a lot of the game) he didn't deliver. So why is the assumption he would if he had less pressure?

OL play doesnt make good QB play, it can only ruin it. QB has to see things. Jimmy didnt. Why I hold him more responsible because the plays were there to be made.

Oline play absolutely does determine the quality of quarterback play. If you are a quarterback getting less than the time it takes for receivers to run their routes, or to set your feet to make an accurate as possible throw, then you are going to have a bad day.

It's easy to sit on the couch sipping your adult beverage and talk about leaving plays on the field, but until you have future first ballot Hall of Famers Aaron Donald and Von Miller coming at you, you really can't have a clue about plays on the field.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Would Llike me to add ADOT?

Sure. That would tell more than just QB rating.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Stafford a 100 rating under pressure. Theres the difference.

Had no run game and Got the s**t beat out of him throughout the playoffs, but stood in there and made the plays when it counted with the heat on

You two should go look at the Rams Play-by-Play immediately after we went up 17-7:

You're going to see A LOT of this phrase: "...M.Stafford pass short..."

And only one of these: "...M.Stafford pass deep left...29 yards."

You're also going to see a couple key runs too. And only 1 pressure from there on out. A short completion.

It's a miracle he hung in there.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Oline play absolutely does determine the quality of quarterback play. If you are a quarterback getting less than the time it takes for receivers to run their routes, or to set your feet to make an accurate as possible throw, then you are going to have a bad day.

It's easy to sit on the couch sipping your adult beverage and talk about leaving plays on the field, but until you have future first ballot Hall of Famers Aaron Donald and Von Miller coming at you, you really can't have a clue about plays on the field.

You aren't understanding. Aaron Rodgers doesn't make the elite throws he makes because he has time. He has to have time to make them but to credit the O line when he hits an elite throw undermines the ability that Rodgers possesses.

Again I point to the last play of the Packer game. He had time and chose to throw into double coverage instead of hitting the wide open guy for a first down. O line did their job and gave him time. They didn't have an effect on the failure of the play.

The O line can't make the throws. Thats my point. So they themselves CAN NOT make good QB play.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Puts Mac numbers into better context for sure.