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Originally posted by YACBros85:
You just love stirring the pot, don't you? Haha
So when McGlinchey came back where did he line up if Moore stayed out at T? Did I miss something?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Of note, when McGlinchey came back, Moore stayed out at T and for the 4th day in a row, Burford took every first team snap at RG...who's a RT (w/ G experience). Too bad they didn't draft Wirfs. Might have won a Superbowl. Hehe.
Anyhow, this is pretty significant given Moore had a full redshirt year and was gearing up to start at RG...now he's out at T.
We'll find out Moore on Monday!
You just love stirring the pot, don't you? Haha
So when McGlinchey came back where did he line up if Moore stayed out at T? Did I miss something?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Of note, when McGlinchey came back, Moore stayed out at T and for the 4th day in a row, Burford took every first team snap at RG...who's a RT (w/ G experience). Too bad they didn't draft Wirfs. Might have won a Superbowl. Hehe.
Anyhow, this is pretty significant given Moore had a full redshirt year and was gearing up to start at RG...now he's out at T.
We'll find out Moore on Monday!
You just love stirring the pot, don't you? Haha
So when McGlinchey came back where did he line up if Moore stayed out at T? Did I miss something?
Hehe. That was just a little confirmation of my original stance. Fans were saying why take BPA in Wirfs when we already have McGlinchey. My stance was to take the talent esp. if it's at a need position too. If you can play RT in this system, you certainly can play G (height/strength might be an issue).
Imagine: Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Wirfs - McGlinchey/Brunskill/Compton
Also, would the Bucs have won without him?
Of course a few pushed back on that and thought we what we had was good enough. Now you're seeing T and G's very much interchanging here confirming my original stance. Plus I wanted him for additional insurance at RT because McGlinchey had all sorts of health issues then and his long term future was up in the air.
He's just used as an example more than anything on prioritization and scheme.
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McGlinchey doesn't do much 11x11 so most of those snaps would go to Moore at RT.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
You just love stirring the pot, don't you? Haha
So when McGlinchey came back where did he line up if Moore stayed out at T? Did I miss something?
Hey if Burford comes in and is so good that he beats Moore out that's not a bad thing at all.
Wirfs would've got hurt before the nfc title game anyway so all moot.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Of note, when McGlinchey came back, Moore stayed out at T and for the 4th day in a row, Burford took every first team snap at RG...who's a RT (w/ G experience). Too bad they didn't draft Wirfs. Might have won a Superbowl. Hehe.
Anyhow, this is pretty significant given Moore had a full redshirt year and was gearing up to start at RG...now he's out at T.
We'll find out Moore on Monday!
You just love stirring the pot, don't you? Haha
So when McGlinchey came back where did he line up if Moore stayed out at T? Did I miss something?
Hehe. That was just a little confirmation of my original stance. Fans were saying why take BPA in Wirfs when we already have McGlinchey. My stance was to take the talent esp. if it's at a need position too. If you can play RT in this system, you certainly can play G (height/strength might be an issue).
Imagine: Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Wirfs - McGlinchey/Brunskill/Compton
Also, would the Bucs have won without him?
Of course a few pushed back on that and thought we what we had was good enough. Now you're seeing T and G's very much interchanging here confirming my original stance. Plus I wanted him for additional insurance at RT because McGlinchey had all sorts of health issues then and his long term future was up in the air.
He's just used as an example more than anything on prioritization and scheme.
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McGlinchey doesn't do much 11x11 so most of those snaps would go to Moore at RT.
Thanks for clarifying the McGlinchey/Moore situation. I think what you are seeing with the T's and G's interchanging is seeing who is the best outside PP. Your best pass protectors, not including center, you always want on the outside. I agree, Whirfs most definitely would have made this O line that much better.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So Wirfs would be able to play tackle and guard at an extremely high level but Ruiz can't play center and guard.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Good one!
I agree. It's still way early but it's more of an indictment of Moore. I was looking forward to him battling and holding off Burford because I think Burford needs a year at RT to take over for McGlinchey. If you have three young players starting and you don't have to pay for McGlinchey, that opens up a crap ton of money to throw at whatever you need including OL if need be.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am not sure I am following. I would see the line like this, if we had drafted Whirfs.
Williams - Banks - Brunskill/Brendel - McGlinchey - Whirfs
With that line we would be able to play bully ball with the run up the middle. Pass pro would hella solid on the outside.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So Wirfs would be able to play tackle and guard at an extremely high level but Ruiz can't play center and guard.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Good one!
I agree. It's still way early but it's more of an indictment of Moore. I was looking forward to him battling and holding off Burford because I think Burford needs a year at RT to take over for McGlinchey. If you have three young players starting and you don't have to pay for McGlinchey, that opens up a crap ton of money to throw at whatever you need including OL if need be.
Unless McGlinchey plays to some pro bowl level there is no reason to resign him to a big money deal. Either get a cheaper option in FA (Andre Dillard) or draft someone in rd 2. Early analysis looks like a solid OT class with good depth.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Depends on the player, their experience, their skill sets, team needs, systems, etc.
Yes, Ruiz had to learn a brand new position at the pro level.
The movements and techniques here in OZ are in unison between G And T so it's a bit more seemless.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Good one!
I agree. It's still way early but it's more of an indictment of Moore. I was looking forward to him battling and holding off Burford because I think Burford needs a year at RT to take over for McGlinchey. If you have three young players starting and you don't have to pay for McGlinchey, that opens up a crap ton of money to throw at whatever you need including OL if need be.
Unless McGlinchey plays to some pro bowl level there is no reason to resign him to a big money deal. Either get a cheaper option in FA (Andre Dillard) or draft someone in rd 2. Early analysis looks like a solid OT class with good depth.
That is some great news. If I was the FO, I would draft both a OT and a C early in this coming draft.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is some great news. If I was the FO, I would draft both a OT and a C early in this coming draft.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am not sure I am following. I would see the line like this, if we had drafted Whirfs.
Williams - Banks - Brunskill/Brendel - McGlinchey - Whirfs
With that line we would be able to play bully ball with the run up the middle. Pass pro would hella solid on the outside.
McGlinchey looked terrible at guard when he played it against Minnesota.