49ers Offensive Line

We had Trent, MM coming off injury, and 3 questions. At this point MM is hurt, and we have 1 answer (Burford) we can feel ok about. Amongst all the aquired and developed depth, we have more questions then answers. Also Brunskill is out short term. Week 1 is 3 weeks away.

optimisticly I'm hoping Banks/Brendal improve, MM gets healthy asap and Brunskill becomes insurance at RT.

As I've said all off-season this group is what corner was last year. A position we needed to address more urgently and didn't.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol positivity only? I and the beat writers saiid OL has struggled in joint practices. You take that as Homer fluff and felt the need to go to a Viking forum to get the true unbiased takes 🤣

It's cuz you don't have an agenda Hoov.

Lol the "agenda"? Hahahaha? I mean what does my agenda get me? Bragging rights in NT? You guys are hilarious. YouRube channel? Nope. Twitter feed? Nope. Followers? Not at all. I'm not running for "Most Accurate 49er Fan" (is that a thing?).

Now the truth, I really have a secret agenda to influence the team through message boards because I have source information that the team reads all our posts.

From now on, I'll own that with #Agenda! 😂😂😂

Okay seriously tho. Whether y'all want to admit it, the OL is a hot mess outside a couple of bright spots. There's just too much evidence out there from too many folks who have been at camp and I'm talking interviews not just tweets. Whether you believe it or not makes no difference to me really.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
NC,

While watching that new Burford breakdown, I saw MM have a bad rep on the only OZ run on his play side. He never saw number 58 until it was too late.I don't know what he was asked to do on that play. His eyes were looking to double team on the outside and didn't see the linebacker coming up to plug the hole. I also saw, I think McKivitz at LT and Kroft at TE on those OZ runs to the left. There was no Trent, Juice or Kittle on those plays to the left. Not to mention no Deebo or Aikuy who are also tasked with run blocking on the outside on those plays.

The fact that we have great interior run blockers is going to go along way this season. As you pointed out there were some good inside zone and power plays against GB. We could find our squad having the ability to be really good on the inside and as well as outside left. Maybe outside right if we can get that RT position figured out.

I am going to have to go back and read who you said you think should fill in if MM and JM aren't ready to go by week 1. I want to see how well they performed against GB.

If the run game is versatile and can beat defenses multiple ways, it will keep defenses off balance. Perhaps enough to where playaction rollouts are a potential for big plays and PP isn't a large dose of drop back on 3rd and long and pray every possession.

Trey's best attribute is rolling out and throwing on the run. I would also go as far as to say, he is more accurate throwing the run than he is standing in the pocket. Sorry, didn't mean to move off of the O line topic.

Nice!

I want to say you are spot on on the team blocking on those OZ plays. That's why they are so boom or bust. So you bet your ass having all of those guys back in there, we should see far better results.

But no doubt, being able to change gears inside and counter with OZ and mix and match will be huge. Note too, the short yardage plays were better.

Yeah with Trey's athleticism and ability to see and play well on the move, you could do rolling pockets and all sorts of fun things if the PP is struggling.

The guy to watch is #50 Jordan Mills (RT). He and Poe played well together. Note how many bigger runs were off these two. JM is a bigger wide bodied guy but his feet are pretty quick. He got a false start but overall played a really solid game. Don't be surprised if he's the #1 in tomorrow's game. That will be a great test against their DL.

I just finished watching Jordan Mills against GB. He had a few nice run blocking reps. Mostly, he was very underwhelming to me. Lets see what he does tomorrow. At this point, I really hope either MM or JM can come back before week 1.

Yeah solid performance given he's only been here a couple weeks. Definitely better then Skule and McKivitz who are incredibly disappointing at this stage of their careers. Me too...looking forward to seeing if Jaylon Moore has improved at all at RT (although I think he's a G). MM...ugh...all about health. Hope this round of PRP injections help.

He did look better than Skule and McKivitz. I'll give you that. I was probably being a little too dramatic when I said very underwhelming. Its just that it looked like he wasn't asked to do much in PP on a majority of his snaps. A lot of the time the guy he was assigned to block did not really engage him. The defender would kind of sit back as if they were anticipating the QB rolling out to that side. In which the QB's were rolling out to that side a lot in that game. The one or two times where he did have to hold up, he was pushed back. You are right, we just picked him up on 8/6 so he probably needs some time to adjust to this offense.

Good eye on the PP!

Yeah let's watch him more closely tonight and see if he gets more PP sets. We need to keep an eye on him in case McGlinchey and Moore aren't ready. I'm curious to see if they start trying Brunskill out at T again too.

They might want to just in case. Folks say Brunskill put up his best performances at OT, so why not? I also read that they were trying someone else out at C during joint practices this week. So look out for that tonight.

No kidding? Good heads up...didn't catch that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But since other teams care about the o line so much more and have so much more depth I guess I didn't actually watch the Rams backup o line give up 6 sacks in the first half to the freaking Texans.

Stafford is not going to last the season. If he even makes it to week 1.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If our defense is as good as we think it will be, we can just run the ball 75% of the time and throw screens and checkdowns the other 25%.

A la the Ravens and "flacco's" SB win. Our DL, LBs, and now DBs? Yikes…that DL is just brutal, and they are DEEP. Even if O is just middling, which i don't think they will be, that D can carry us on their backs a long way. Basically it is just Center that has to be ironed out. With no picks til #60 we had one helluva FA, draft , UDFA yr. We could possibly get 3, maybe even 4 starters out of our new guys. I know it seems impossible, but we could be better at most every position this yr. (CB, RB, WR, QB, DB, DL, OL).

Doesn't mean we don't have holes (C), but cripes, nobody can look at this crew and not be excited…and rightfully so. No, we haven't played a snap in anger this yr, but….we'll know shortly. And please , Trey, more of that sliding…okay?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But since other teams care about the o line so much more and have so much more depth I guess I didn't actually watch the Rams backup o line give up 6 sacks in the first half to the freaking Texans.

Stafford is not going to last the season. If he even makes it to week 1.

That O line looked bad last night.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If our defense is as good as we think it will be, we can just run the ball 75% of the time and throw screens and checkdowns the other 25%.

A la the Ravens and "flacco's" SB win. Our DL, LBs, and now DBs? Yikes…that DL is just brutal, and they are DEEP. Even if O is just middling, which i don't think they will be, that D can carry us on their backs a long way. Basically it is just Center that has to be ironed out. With no picks til #60 we had one helluva FA, draft , UDFA yr. We could possibly get 3, maybe even 4 starters out of our new guys. I know it seems impossible, but we could be better at most every position this yr. (CB, RB, WR, QB, DB, DL, OL).

Doesn't mean we don't have holes (C), but cripes, nobody can look at this crew and not be excited…and rightfully so. No, we haven't played a snap in anger this yr, but….we'll know shortly. And please , Trey, more of that sliding…okay?

I agree with you mostly but my biggest concern on the O line at this point is RT. I have seen nothing from Brendel that makes me worried. His snaps all look clean and he seems to work well with both Banks and Burford in pass pro. The only thing I wish we got more out of in the center position is a better 2nd level run blocker but I see no drop off from when Mack played last season so...

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But since other teams care about the o line so much more and have so much more depth I guess I didn't actually watch the Rams backup o line give up 6 sacks in the first half to the freaking Texans.

Stafford is not going to last the season. If he even makes it to week 1.

That O line looked bad last night.

That's great for us!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But since other teams care about the o line so much more and have so much more depth I guess I didn't actually watch the Rams backup o line give up 6 sacks in the first half to the freaking Texans.

Stafford is not going to last the season. If he even makes it to week 1.

That O line looked bad last night.

That's great for us!

Still too early to tell.. uh oh optimism!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But since other teams care about the o line so much more and have so much more depth I guess I didn't actually watch the Rams backup o line give up 6 sacks in the first half to the freaking Texans.

Stafford is not going to last the season. If he even makes it to week 1.

That O line looked bad last night.

That's great for us!

Still too early to tell.. uh oh optimism!

Quit raining on my parade with your objectivity!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Quit raining on my parade with your objectivity!

Welp.

Gotta isolate Banks and Burford but Mills certainly struggled in PP. Good thing Kyle doesn't care about that. j/k

Originally posted by NCommand:
Welp.

Gotta isolate Banks and Burford but Mills certainly struggled in PP. Good thing Kyle doesn't care about that. j/k

Mills ain't the answer at swing OT. McKivitz is going to keep it by default.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Mills ain't the answer at swing OT. McKivitz is going to keep it by default.

Yup. Could be Moore too. Watching around the league swing tackle is a huge hole among the vast majority.

Mills showed contrary to mistaken belief a vet isn't always better.