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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Thank God we didn't resign our pro bowl LG. This O line sucks.

With what money?

Charvarius Ward's money? Above average 30 year old guard, or upcoming man cover CB? hmmm

The secondary was just as much of an issue last season as the O line. Can't blame them for going for a CB who can man up and cover. Tomlinson was straight ass in the playoffs which is probably why they decided to spend that money elsewhere.

we made the right choice

We got Banks for a reason and so far he looks like he will be a good starter. the issues i see with the OL the backups not the starters i actually think this /ol starting 5 is better than last year we had a huge issue with right side of line last year
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Thank God we didn't resign our pro bowl LG. This O line sucks.

With what money?

Charvarius Ward's money? Above average 30 year old guard, or upcoming man cover CB? hmmm

The secondary was just as much of an issue last season as the O line. Can't blame them for going for a CB who can man up and cover. Tomlinson was straight ass in the playoffs which is probably why they decided to spend that money elsewhere.

we made the right choice

We got Banks for a reason and so far he looks like he will be a good starter. the issues i see with the OL the backups not the starters i actually think this /ol starting 5 is better than last year we had a huge issue with right side of line last year

I like all three IOL. I think they work well together. My only concern at this point is RT and swing OT.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Thank God we didn't resign our pro bowl LG. This O line sucks.

With what money?

Charvarius Ward's money? Above average 30 year old guard, or upcoming man cover CB? hmmm

The secondary was just as much of an issue last season as the O line. Can't blame them for going for a CB who can man up and cover. Tomlinson was straight ass in the playoffs which is probably why they decided to spend that money elsewhere.

we made the right choice

We got Banks for a reason and so far he looks like he will be a good starter. the issues i see with the OL the backups not the starters i actually think this /ol starting 5 is better than last year we had a huge issue with right side of line last year

I like all three IOL. I think they work well together. My only concern at this point is RT and swing OT.

Agree 💯%, and I'd rather they choose the 9 most athletically talented OLinemen, and let experience be a lower priority. Like Burford- he might be a rookie with no right tackle experience, but I'd still put him out there at Right Tackle if neither McKivitz or Skule have the physical talent to play right tackle, despite their experience. I think if Buford has physical talent, eventually he'll be a good right tackle with enough experience.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Thank God we didn't resign our pro bowl LG. This O line sucks.

With what money?

Charvarius Ward's money? Above average 30 year old guard, or upcoming man cover CB? hmmm

The secondary was just as much of an issue last season as the O line. Can't blame them for going for a CB who can man up and cover. Tomlinson was straight ass in the playoffs which is probably why they decided to spend that money elsewhere.

we made the right choice

We got Banks for a reason and so far he looks like he will be a good starter. the issues i see with the OL the backups not the starters i actually think this /ol starting 5 is better than last year we had a huge issue with right side of line last year

I like all three IOL. I think they work well together. My only concern at this point is RT and swing OT.

Agree 💯%, and I'd rather they choose the 9 most athletically talented OLinemen, and let experience be a lower priority. Like Burford- he might be a rookie with no right tackle experience, but I'd still put him out there at Right Tackle if neither McKivitz or Skule have the physical talent to play right tackle, despite their experience. I think if Buford has physical talent, eventually he'll be a good right tackle with enough experience.

Like I was saying earlier to NC. Burford looks like he could play RT with how he pass blocks. But if we can keep him at RG, I'd rather do that since he is a rookie and he has been playing that position since OTA's. Hopefully MM is ready to go week 1.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Aug 21, 2022 at 12:30 PM ]
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree 💯%, and I'd rather they choose the 9 most athletically talented OLinemen, and let experience be a lower priority. Like Burford- he might be a rookie with no right tackle experience, but I'd still put him out there at Right Tackle if neither McKivitz or Skule have the physical talent to play right tackle, despite their experience. I think if Buford has physical talent, eventually he'll be a good right tackle with enough experience.

i wish they would choose the TEN most athletically talented OL. Also as YAC (i think) posted , Poe, Burford, on R side, if Jaylon or McG can't go. Skule and McK look like lesser talents. So end up with Trent, Banks , Brendel, Poe, Burford (if McG & JM injured), and then keep West, Jekelj, and…who else for 10th OL? I'm not expecting kyle to go 10 OLs, altho I've made a case before that he should. With so much NEW, I'd be inclined to keep 10…esp when 2 (JM and McG) are injured.
Haven't seen much about Southerland other than he had 2 pressures and 1 qB hit…but except for that one stunt and Southerland never saw it with QB hit. Other than that, it looked like he did alright at C. If someone isolated on him, please let's hear it.

Curious to see where they mix in J. Moore this week.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Exactly. Lol. The answer to your question is "no" not equivocation about "every team in the NFL" which also isn't true. No one argues absolutely that every single vet is better. It's about and always has been about finding players who can play.

But again, this is no longer an argument for me. The OL is a mess and many keep saying "it's fine". It's going to have to be demonstrated again for folks to believe. Evidence are found in practices when it's 1s vs 1s.

Again keep those fingers crossed. Rest of us will be rooting for them to play well.
Originally posted by NYniner85:

The whole thing is a complete and total mess. Stop posting anything that doesn't fit with that.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Exactly. Lol. The answer to your question is "no" not equivocation about "every team in the NFL" which also isn't true. No one argues absolutely that every single vet is better. It's about and always has been about finding players who can play.

But again, this is no longer an argument for me. The OL is a mess and many keep saying "it's fine". It's going to have to be demonstrated again for folks to believe. Evidence are found in practices when it's 1s vs 1s.

Again keep those fingers crossed. Rest of us will be rooting for them to play well.

I know you need to believe that I don't want the team to play well. Keep that world simple. Good v Bad. Light v dark. Us vs Them. Works for those who need to keep it easy:

"If you don't agree with me and the way I see it, you're not rooting for the team."

#Cult49erFans
Don't play the victim lol
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I know you need to believe that I don't want the team to play well. Keep that world simple. Good v Bad. Light v dark. Us vs Them. Works for those who need to keep it easy:

"If you don't agree with me and the way I see it, you're not rooting for the team."

#Cult49erFans

Being that you've already decided they will be terrible yes I think it's more important to you to be right. Hell your username says it all.

Funny thing is none of the rest of us has ever said things are fine. It's just an understanding the team is dealing with the same issues everyone else is. I don't love McKivitz at all. But I've never seen much out there that's an improvement. Jordan Mills just proved that yesterday.

Is Poe still a scrub that will be lucky to make the practice squad?
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Curious to see where they mix in J. Moore this week.

And there it is...the season.

j/k...kind of.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I know you need to believe that I don't want the team to play well. Keep that world simple. Good v Bad. Light v dark. Us vs Them. Works for those who need to keep it easy:

"If you don't agree with me and the way I see it, you're not rooting for the team."

#Cult49erFans

Being that you've already decided they will be terrible yes I think it's more important to you to be right. Hell your username says it all.

Funny thing is none of the rest of us has ever said things are fine. It's just an understanding the team is dealing with the same issues everyone else is. I don't love McKivitz at all. But I've never seen much out there that's an improvement. Jordan Mills just proved that yesterday.

Is Poe still a scrub that will be lucky to make the practice squad?

No but you did say it was good enough when it clearly wasn't. You seem to be going down that same road with McKivitz and pivoting to gross generalizations again.

Do you REALLY think there was no way to upgrade over a dude like McKivitz? Particularly in a known year (again) that your RT has health issues?

Like GM noted, the OL are still talented coming into the league. Some still hit the ground running. The issue is prioritization, development and coaching. But we had 6 years for that.
Originally posted by NCommand:
No but you did say it was good enough when it clearly wasn't. You seem to be going down that same road with McKivitz and pivoting to gross generalizations again.

Do you REALLY think there was no way to upgrade over a dude like McKivitz? Particularly in a known year (again) that your RT has health issues?

Like GM noted, the OL are still talented coming into the league. Some still hit the ground running. The issue is prioritization, development and coaching. But we had 6 years for that.

Who would you have signed? Who's the upgrade?

I bring up the rest of the league because couldn't you say the same about Yosh Njiman in Green Bay? Hell both Packer OTs are coming off injury. Or Josh Wells in Tampa? Or the collection of crap that the Texans just dominated from the Rams? So if the majority has the same exact issue it begs the question on whether it's as easy as you guys suggest doesn't it?
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Aug 21, 2022 at 4:09 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Who would you have signed? Who's the upgrade?

I bring up the rest of the league because couldn't you say the same about Yosh Njiman in Green Bay? Hell both Packer OTs are coming off injury. Or Josh Wells in Tampa? Or the collection of crap that the Texans just dominated from the Rams? So if the majority has the same exact issue it begs the question on whether it's as easy as you guys suggest doesn't it?

I think we tend to live in our own bubble and think that when we have Oline concerns, People think were alone in that regard. 90% of the teams in the league have these same concerns. Good Olinemen are not easy to find in this league. You almost need a top 15 pick or hope to get lucky. And still, That's only one guy. And then you have the salary cap which makes it pretty impossible to not have multiple concerns on the Oline.
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