49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You bring up some good points. I am curious to know what exactly they are looking for. If MM can't go and Brunskill has to fill in, maybe they are in the market for a backup center.

Not much out there that people will be willing to part with. Perhaps the Broncos and Graham Glasgow.

Yea. I am not sure who is out there and who would be available.

I find it hard to believe that last night Shanny just then came to the conclusion that one of the IOL needed to be replaced. The only logical thing that I can come up with is needing a back up center if Brunskill is asked to play tackle for an extended period of time. Both McKivitz and Moore have not looked good at all at those tackle positions.

Does anyone have info on the Bruskill injury and when he is expected to be back?

I think you're right on on your logic there.

Nothing here...these hammy's have either been lingering or they're being extra cautious with guys like Ward and Brunskill.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I will go against the grain here and say we have a very good line. Will eat crow if wrong but I won't be.

I think they can be good. I saw more mental mistakes than physical breakdowns. You can fix mental breakdowns, but if a guy doesn't have the strength physically block or arm to throw a five yard out, you can't fix those issues, you need a new guy.

They should be better and more prepared than what we witnessed last night, come week 1.

The question Is, how much better? I'd like to think that Trent will make a big difference to the left side of the OL ( assuming Banks can hold his own ). It's the right side that Is a big concern, at least to me.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I will go against the grain here and say we have a very good line. Will eat crow if wrong but I won't be.

I think they can be good. I saw more mental mistakes than physical breakdowns. You can fix mental breakdowns, but if a guy doesn't have the strength physically block or arm to throw a five yard out, you can't fix those issues, you need a new guy.

They should be better and more prepared than what we witnessed last night, come week 1.

The question Is, how much better? I'd like to think that Trent will make a big difference to the left side of the OL ( assuming Banks can hold his own ). It's the right side that Is a big concern, at least to me.

Agreed. I ain't trip'n yet. Concerned? Naturally! Validated concerns? For sure.

But let's see how they operate within a game plan facing an opponent and under the lights. And let's give them a good quarter of the season to assess.

I don't want the front office to simply try to trade for an interior offensive lineman I want them to do it! Stop with this aggressively prudent crap that we have been used to over the years. Just get it done. We have 3 3rd round picks next year which could increase to 4 if DeMeco Ryans becomes a head coach. We have the draft capital to trade a team for a good quality player not a back up.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I will go against the grain here and say we have a very good line. Will eat crow if wrong but I won't be.

I think they can be good. I saw more mental mistakes than physical breakdowns. You can fix mental breakdowns, but if a guy doesn't have the strength physically block or arm to throw a five yard out, you can't fix those issues, you need a new guy.

They should be better and more prepared than what we witnessed last night, come week 1.

The question Is, how much better? I'd like to think that Trent will make a big difference to the left side of the OL ( assuming Banks can hold his own ). It's the right side that Is a big concern, at least to me.

My gut tells me that it will be OK so long as Brunskill is healthy. The Houston Texans were game planning to win the game, whereas Kyle was just wanting to make sure that none of his players got severely injured. When you give Kyle more than a week to prepare, I think the team will be prepared for anything the Bears can bring. I'm looking for some improvement in the pass and run games in the upcoming Bears game. I think Trey and the OLine will continue to have problems, but not as much as they had with the Texans. Such a big part of this offense is so raw and inexperienced, you just have to anticipate about four games (or more) where the offense will be inconsistent if you have some common sense.

I just finished re-watching the game (I know, I'm a masochist.) for the expressed purpose of watching Banks and Poe.

I understand that Banks was likely working against a grade-level higher player during his time in the game versus what Poe was facing. My conclusion is that Poe is the better player. He is just as strong if not more so than Banks. Poe also is noticeably quicker than Banks. His footwork is light years faster. His superiority stood out on the last play of the game as Purdy was scrambling around trying to make something happen. All the rest of the LOS had broken down into a chase scene except Poe who continued to hold off his man at virtually the same spot on the field as they started. It was funny really. It looked like they were having their own personal one-on-one while everyone else was off doing something else.

Poe is the starter, IMO.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
If the reports are true the FO inquired recently about an IOL trade, that's super alarming and tells you what THEY think of the IOL.

Also of note, Lombardi said Tretter said nobody contacted him this year, so he retired. Dafuq????

NC. I tried. Chris Forester bro. This is MY TEAM and I hate that we decided to promote Foerster to OL coach. I've been banging that drum for a while.

And what the hell is Lynn doing? Isn't he supposed to be an OL coach too? These guys don't even look technically sound or organized. Arg.

Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished re-watching the game (I know, I'm a masochist.) for the expressed purpose of watching Banks and Poe.

I understand that Banks was likely working against a grade-level higher player during his time in the game versus what Poe was facing. My conclusion is that Poe is the better player. He is just as strong if not more so than Banks. Poe also is noticeably quicker than Banks. His footwork is light years faster. His superiority stood out on the last play of the game as Purdy was scrambling around trying to make something happen. All the rest of the LOS had broken down into a chase scene except Poe who continued to hold off his man at virtually the same spot on the field as they started. It was funny really. It looked like they were having their own personal one-on-one while everyone else was off doing something else.

Poe is the starter, IMO.

Interesting. I'll take your word on it. You do have a good eye for OL talent.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
NC. I tried. Chris Forester bro. This is MY TEAM and I hate that we decided to promote Foerster to OL coach. I've been banging that drum for a while.

I´ve been saying that Foerster is the worst position coach of the team by far.

Jaylon Moore was getting beaten so badly it made every play look like the entire line got worked.

Moore was atrocious on Thursday. The most polite way to put it.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
NC. I tried. Chris Forester bro. This is MY TEAM and I hate that we decided to promote Foerster to OL coach. I've been banging that drum for a while.

I´ve been saying that Foerster is the worst position coach of the team by far.

Well, Poe and Brendal look good (so far), and Banks and Burford do seem to look like legit starters. If a UDFA like Brendel can make the team and be just average (for example), thats like hitting a home run - from a draft point of view.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but when a particular position group is composed of some UDFAs, you have to look at the position coach and maybe give him some credit.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished re-watching the game (I know, I'm a masochist.) for the expressed purpose of watching Banks and Poe.

I understand that Banks was likely working against a grade-level higher player during his time in the game versus what Poe was facing. My conclusion is that Poe is the better player. He is just as strong if not more so than Banks. Poe also is noticeably quicker than Banks. His footwork is light years faster. His superiority stood out on the last play of the game as Purdy was scrambling around trying to make something happen. All the rest of the LOS had broken down into a chase scene except Poe who continued to hold off his man at virtually the same spot on the field as they started. It was funny really. It looked like they were having their own personal one-on-one while everyone else was off doing something else.

Poe is the starter, IMO.

Interesting. I'll take your word on it. You do have a good eye for OL talent.

One solution to the OLine problem is somehow getting Poe to be a starter. I don't think you throw a terribly raw guy like Poe in there right away, but I'd look to develop him over the course of this season so that towards the end of this season he can challenge for a starting spot. At least that's how I'd approach handling Poe.

It would be nice if Poe was so good that he was able to push Burford (at some point in the season) towards right tackle. Now Burford playing right tackle is a whole nuther can of worms though.

Originally posted by reasonable1:
Jaylon Moore was getting beaten so badly it made every play look like the entire line got worked.

Moore was atrocious on Thursday. The most polite way to put it.

He was absolutely terrible. A few plays he didn't even slow the rusher down at all

Id try to trade for Washingtons Roullier.
They are somewhat in a rebuild anyways, would be a good center to help the Interior Line

I am wondering if Brunskill can still play OT. He has been playing interior OL in the last two seasons and this year's training camp. Not sure if he got any training snaps at OT. Perhaps he has been getting his body and weight to be ideal for interior OL and he won't be able to play OT at the 2019 level any time soon.