Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I wrote down your original projection/guestimate with all of ours at the time.
If you're changing it now, that's cool.
No need for you to take offense to your own projection.
And tossing out 500-550 passing attempts is still bottom of the league lol. We had 515 passing attempts last yr. Having 550 passing attempts would put them 20th in the league in passing. There's nothing to change dude. It's still not some high end passing stats if they throw 550 times next yr.
LOL. You're debating with yourself here. Literally.
But 550 to 450 IS pass-centric...for us.
No you are lol. You're talking about 550 passing attempts like it's some massive number, but if you go look at passing attempts last yr it's not….and they had 515 passing attempts not 450. Use the correct numbers dude.
This is hilarious. 808 asked who in here thought we'd become pass centric now with Trey (e.g. higher than what we've typically been doing). I noted of the group, who made predictions (for fun), you had the highest by far. It sounds like you're readjusting down after seeing we're keeping 10 OL, 5 RB's and 4 TE's. You're getting all worked up over your own prediction and a non-story.
No you again make everything dramatic and over the top.
No I'm saying what I've been saying in here…you just choose to make stuff up. We threw more than ran it last yr. Fact. We did not pass the ball 450x like you said….We spent 3 1sts on a QB, so any objective person would assume they will probably throw the ball a little more. Whether it's this yr or a yr from now. I don't see how that some wild thing to say. I NEVER stated we'd be a Brady in TB type offense. I have said we will run the ball as much as we can…also tossing out dumb hypotheticals like passing attempts is silly. Its all related to how the team is doing game to game. Nick Mullens in his 8 starts in 2018 was avg almost 35 passing attempts a game…over a 17 week season that's almost 590 passing attempts…why is that? Because we weren't a good football team and he HAD to throw the ball.
so if you're gonna toss my name out there at least add the whole context of the convo. Thanks
What are you babbling about now? You're all over the place.
What's your new prediction. 550 down to what?
YAC smartly adjusted his down too recently from 530/485 to 50/50.
I'll stick to my original: 500 Rushing Attempts & 515 Passing Attempts.
Nope I'm f**king consistent in my stance. You're the one tossing my name out for no damn reason…dramatizing my take. Only one babbling in this thread (for yrs) is you.
I don't care about predications…it's a stupid thing to qualify RIGHT NOW. s**t changes based on injuries and how everyone else plays. Like I said look at Nick Mullens numbers in 2018.
In a perfect world every team would love to run the ball 600 times because that means they're winning the majority of every game. We ALL know Kyle's offense is based on OZ/PA that's the backbone of it. Spending up for a QB means he wants a little more…like having the ability to use the whole field and yeah probably not being last in the league in passing attempts.
You think Kyle wouldn't love every game to be like the 2019 playoffs? I do. If we passed 8-10x a game and ran for over 7 YPA every game Kyle would be ecstatic.
Trey can run, Kyle has talked umpteen million times about Trey adding to the run game by forcing 11 on 11 football, we kept 4 TE's, 5 RB's 10 OL and Deebo is still gonna play wideback with only 5 WR's. If that doesn't scream, "were gonna run the ball 60x a game" I don't know what does, lol.
I literally said that any football team would love to have that outcome.
I never said this was gonna be a pass first team (like 70-30 or whatever he's making up), not sure why you're debating any of that with me. I said they would more than likely be in favor of using the whole field. I would expect SF to not be last in the league in passing 2 or 3 yrs from now. I'm not saying they will be Tampa or anything. I said around 550 passing attempts when he wanted me to toss a number to it…which imo is a dumb thing to even qualify right now. That would put them 20th in the league in passing attempts.
NC once again has greatly embellished my points to try and push some weird correlation about scheme injuries.
And that's where I disagree and feel like many, not just you, are reading your desire from more passing production from Jimmy, on to Trey and disregard what Kyle has said he likes about Trey and the scheme.
Trey is a QB who can run, Kyle has talked about how much a qb who can run can add to the offense. Therefore it's completely reasonable to believe that we would have an even heavier emphasis on the run game and throw less. With Jimmy G we've been about 250 yards a game. Lance vs HOU was just under that and that included a huge chunk passing play.
I would not be surprised if we average around 225 passing per game, as long as things are going to plan.
The decision to keep 9 combined RB's and TE's when most teams keep 6, as well as only 5 WR's when most teams keep 6-7, should tell us Kyle is not trying to climb the passing rankings.
Total pass attempts also don't tell you much. % of total offense and YPA tell a lot more.
I feel this pain/challenge!