Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
What are you trying to accomplish saying this every week? That you were the one person who didn't have any concerns about the OL coming into the season and you knew this was a top 10 OL? 
Or did someone bust your balls constantly with that comment?
Holding people accountable for being wrong. If you are going to predict failure have the balls to do a mea culpa. What you don't get about me or Hoov and others like us is we want to wait for data before we make our predictions. I never predict things until Ive see enough to be confident in it.
Being that you didn't say it why does it bother you?
I remember getting the same OL related nonsense shoved down our throats repeatedly. The worst was the gloating 5 min after the SB loss
"You were told" and they told you correctly every year. It was your choice to ignore those concerns that became reality.
Having no opinion until you have all the data enough to make a formal decision is a silly approach to a fan forum. Like I always tell you, it's OK to look for patterns and have an opinion. Even if it ends up not being a concern in the end. Don't be afraid. 
9ers4eva does it all the time with the secondary. 
Not really. Just because you say something is so doesn't make it so. These gross exaggerations about the OL over the years coupled with refusal to acknowledge a QBs role was so over the top. I think that's the point you might be missing here.
and to your 2nd point, sure I'll take this approach. act as though I'm in the know, make a bunch of nonsense takes prior to the season , then get quiet as a mouse in season when those takes aren't close to coming true, then wait until the last 5 min of a SB to tell everyone how right I was and I told you so 😂
Nah, you've always been hyper focused on the QB. It was always harder for you to see how having an average to poor PP unit affected a passing game; esp. one that was low in volume and reliant on an effective run game first. Jimmy was a classic pocket passer so he needed more focus on pass protection to be successful. Eureka! He got it finally this year and was top 3 in efficiency. Coincidence? Conversely, I told you Stafford and other pass centric offenses would fail miserably if he didn't have elite pass protection. Eureka...he couldn't transcend it.
It's still football. Complementary football. The trenches are still incredibly important.
Brock's pocket feel and mobility have certainly helped a lot on blown PP assignments (there's been a lot of free rushers still) and off schedule plays. He's like the perfect mix of Trey and Jimmy at their extremes in skill sets.
Nah, I really haven't. That was just always your cop out. Calling me a Jimmy hater, a homer etc etc. the thing is Your takes were always just so exaggerated and steeped in bias that it always defaults to the focus of every conversation with you on this matter. For instance when folks brought up QBs who are not statues and have great pocket presence, you immediately went 0-100 and started pushing athletic, running QBs that transcend OL.
You also tend to point the finger at everyone and everything not named jimmy. It's the OL, it's the lack of rum game it's the WRs dropping passes, it's Kyle and his remedial, gutless play-calling who holds jimmy back. it's the defense. The list goes on. I did always find it odd because you constantly would say this maybe the 8th best team in the NFL that were not true contenders. But if you have a team loaded with stars coupled with the best defense in the league and the QB is playing at such a high level, why would you have them so low and not contenders? Makes no sense.
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Jan 3, 2023 at 7:32 PM ]
