49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you think he still thinks the Eagles is an elite OL after giving up 12 sacks the last two games ?

I didn't watch but the sacks and losses may be reverting to a much lesser QB. No surprise that when Hurts went down, so did the team.

whoa whoa whoa.. what are you trying to say here ?

welcome back !!

I think he is saying that the QB transcends the O line.

impossible

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you think he still thinks the Eagles is an elite OL after giving up 12 sacks the last two games ?

I didn't watch but the sacks and losses may be reverting to a much lesser QB. No surprise that when Hurts went down, so did the team.

whoa whoa whoa.. what are you trying to say here ?

welcome back !!

thank you Sir

happy new year MrATT

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
you think he still thinks the Eagles is an elite OL after giving up 12 sacks the last two games ?

I didn't watch but the sacks and losses may be reverting to a much lesser QB. No surprise that when Hurts went down, so did the team.

whoa whoa whoa.. what are you trying to say here ?

welcome back !!

I think he is saying that the QB transcends the O line.

impossible

Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

RT. Pretty sure Mailata is their LT.

3.31 is a lot of time.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

RT. Pretty sure Mailata is their LT.

3.31 is a lot of time.

missing a LT of an elite OL shouldn't turn the OL into poop.. they should be able to get a TE in there to help out or scheme away from the LT weakness

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

RT. Pretty sure Mailata is their LT.

3.31 is a lot of time.

I thought I read LT but I could be wrong.

Jalen Hurts has been pressured on 30.2% of his dropbacks this season and has an average TTT of 3.81 seconds on those dropbacks.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

While missing one of their starting tackles. Odd.

By the way. PFF's definition of TTT is from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot so that time has nothing to do with being mobile or not.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

While missing one of their starting tackles. Odd.

By the way. PFF's definition of TTT is from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot so that time has nothing to do with being mobile or not.

Like when Trent Williams was playing on one leg. Or we had Tom Compton starting? LOL

Odd how NOW you guys care about that. #Minshewexcuses

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

While missing one of their starting tackles. Odd.

By the way. PFF's definition of TTT is from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot so that time has nothing to do with being mobile or not.

Like when Trent Williams was playing on one leg. Or we had Tom Compton starting? LOL

Odd how NOW you guys care about that. #Minshewexcuses

I am the one who brought up Trent Williams and Tom Compton so I do not know where you are going with that statement. Inspite of those two, no one gave up a sack in that game and the pressure was allowed on an average of 3.73 seconds after the snap.

Its quite obvious that Hurts is a better QB than Minshew but the O line was holding up better before the injury to their tackle and the pressure TTT shows it.

I am starting to wonder if you are related to Jimmy Garoppolo? Your defense of him puts my defense of Kyle Shanahan to straight shame.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

While missing one of their starting tackles. Odd.

By the way. PFF's definition of TTT is from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot so that time has nothing to do with being mobile or not.

Like when Trent Williams was playing on one leg. Or we had Tom Compton starting? LOL

Odd how NOW you guys care about that. #Minshewexcuses

I am the one who brought up Trent Williams and Tom Compton so I do not know where you are going with that statement. Inspite of those two, no one gave up a sack in that game and the pressure was allowed on an average of 3.73 seconds after the snap.

Its quite obvious that Hurts is a better QB than Minshew but the O line was holding up better before the injury to their tackle and the pressure TTT shows it.

I am starting to wonder if you are related to Jimmy Garoppolo? Your defense of him puts my defense of Kyle Shanahan to straight shame.

I just wanted to thank you for proving my exact point. I wouldn't expect any QB to win with a 35.5% pressure rate. It doesn't mean it couldn't happen...just a low probability.

And who cares about Jimmy? I wouldn't expect Brock to transcend that reality either. LOL

The only difference is your disdain for the man and it's obvious. Minshew or Stafford? That's OK. Jimmy under the same circumstances? f**k that guy. That's all on him. LOL

Talk about triggered 🤣

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Talk about triggered 🤣

i'm reading someone desperately trying to hold on to a % rather than what actually happened in game

I'd expect a QB to do just fine with 3.73 seconds to throw. If he's pressured 35% of the time there is a problem with him or the offense, not the O line.

Pressure rate matters more than how much actual time to throw somehow. It's the definition of insane.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Gardner Minshew has been pressured on 40.9% of his dropbacks and has an average TTT of 3.31 seconds on those dropbacks over the last 2 games. The eagles didn't just lose Hurts for those 2 games though. They have also been without their starting LT.

Super surprising they've been losing with a less mobile QB. Odd.

PS: Thanks for the entrainment you guys. OMG. Talk about being triggered!

While missing one of their starting tackles. Odd.

By the way. PFF's definition of TTT is from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot so that time has nothing to do with being mobile or not.

Like when Trent Williams was playing on one leg. Or we had Tom Compton starting? LOL

Odd how NOW you guys care about that. #Minshewexcuses

I am the one who brought up Trent Williams and Tom Compton so I do not know where you are going with that statement. Inspite of those two, no one gave up a sack in that game and the pressure was allowed on an average of 3.73 seconds after the snap.

Its quite obvious that Hurts is a better QB than Minshew but the O line was holding up better before the injury to their tackle and the pressure TTT shows it.

I am starting to wonder if you are related to Jimmy Garoppolo? Your defense of him puts my defense of Kyle Shanahan to straight shame.

I just wanted to thank you for proving my exact point. I wouldn't expect any QB to win with a 35.5% pressure rate. It doesn't mean it couldn't happen...just a low probability.

And who cares about Jimmy? I wouldn't expect Brock to transcend that reality either. LOL

The only difference is your disdain for the man and it's obvious. Minshew or Stafford? That's OK. Jimmy under the same circumstances? f**k that guy. That's all on him. LOL

What point did I prove for you exactly? You keep talking about pressure rate and ignoring the context that TTT brings to light about pressure rate. So if a QB is pressured on 50% of his dropbacks and his average TTT on those dropbacks is 6.0+ seconds, it's not on the QB for holding the ball too long but on the O line because they just weren't elite enough for you? Where is the threshold for you exactly?

I don't have a disdain for Jimmy. I thought he was playing his best football this season and have posted as much several times this season. You just cannot admit that you see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil when it comes to Jimmy Garoppolo.