49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I know he won't rest until we've spent 5 1st round picks at every spot on the offensive line. And at least 3 backups drafted 4th or higher.

Nah, I'm stoked with the PP this year.

Just need a high priced center amiright

Yes. I wanted Ryan Jensen in FA.

Jensen was on all of my offseason mocks too. I was pissed when he went to Tampa.

I wonder if we can trade for Quinn Meinerz and train him to be a center. Williams, Banks, Meinerz, Poe, Burford?

This makes my PP happy

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jensen was on all of my offseason mocks too. I was pissed when he went to Tampa.

I wonder if we can trade for Quinn Meinerz and train him to be a center. Williams, Banks, Meinerz, Poe, Burford?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'd expect a QB to do just fine with 3.73 seconds to throw. If he's pressured 35% of the time there is a problem with him or the offense, not the O line.

Pressure rate matters more than how much actual time to throw somehow. It's the definition of insane.

Oh great! Then you should be able to find a bunch of QB's who won playoff games with a 35% pressure rate.

I'll increase my pie % for you then.

Here you go…

The team's pressure rate dropped from 62.1% over the first three-quarters of play to 54.5% in the final quarter, and rookie phenom Nick Bosa's pass-rush grade dropped from 91.8 in the first three quarters to 70.5 in the fourth, while his pressure count (eight, including a sack and a hit) and pass-rush win rate (33.3%) through the first three quarters also saw similar drops in the final period of play (four pressures and no sacks and hits, and a pass-rush win rate of 16.7%).

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-how-the-chiefs-got-the-better-of-the-49ers-defense-in-super-bowl-liv

According to Pro Football Focus, Mahomes had been pressured in less than 2.5 seconds on 24 snaps, or 43% of his dropbacks.

Brutal.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
For those who missed it.

TTT before pressure is measured from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot. Has absolutely nothing to do with a QB being mobile or a pure pocket passer.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'd expect a QB to do just fine with 3.73 seconds to throw. If he's pressured 35% of the time there is a problem with him or the offense, not the O line.

Pressure rate matters more than how much actual time to throw somehow. It's the definition of insane.

Oh great! Then you should be able to find a bunch of QB's who won playoff games with a 35% pressure rate.

I'll increase my pie % for you then.

Here you go…

The team's pressure rate dropped from 62.1% over the first three-quarters of play to 54.5% in the final quarter, and rookie phenom Nick Bosa's pass-rush grade dropped from 91.8 in the first three quarters to 70.5 in the fourth, while his pressure count (eight, including a sack and a hit) and pass-rush win rate (33.3%) through the first three quarters also saw similar drops in the final period of play (four pressures and no sacks and hits, and a pass-rush win rate of 16.7%).

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-how-the-chiefs-got-the-better-of-the-49ers-defense-in-super-bowl-liv

LOL, the one you found had to be against our defense.

Find any classic pocket passers?

Burrows might have one but he's pretty athletic.

Either way, the point stands.

QB pressures go up, probability of winning goes down. Not rocket science.

Like this one: https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/tampa-bay-buccaneers-dominany-defense-analysis-super-bowl

According to Pro Football Focus, Mahomes had been pressured in less than 2.5 seconds on 24 snaps, or 43% of his dropbacks.

Brutal.

Oof. Loss.

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL, the one you found had to be against our defense.

Find any classic pocket passers?

Burrows might have one but he's pretty athletic.

Either way, the point stands.

QB pressures go up, probability of winning goes down. Not rocket science.

Like this one: https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/tampa-bay-buccaneers-dominany-defense-analysis-super-bowl

According to Pro Football Focus, Mahomes had been pressured in less than 2.5 seconds on 24 snaps, or 43% of his dropbacks.

Brutal.

Oof. Loss.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I know he won't rest until we've spent 5 1st round picks at every spot on the offensive line. And at least 3 backups drafted 4th or higher.

Nah, I'm stoked with the PP this year.

Just need a high priced center amiright

Yes. I wanted Ryan Jensen in FA.

Jensen was on all of my offseason mocks too. I was pissed when he went to Tampa.

I wonder if we can trade for Quinn Meinerz and train him to be a center. Williams, Banks, Meinerz, Poe, Burford?

This makes my PP happy

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL, the one you found had to be against our defense.

Find any classic pocket passers?

Burrows might have one but he's pretty athletic.

Either way, the point stands.

QB pressures go up, probability of winning goes down. Not rocket science.

Like this one: https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/tampa-bay-buccaneers-dominany-defense-analysis-super-bowl

According to Pro Football Focus, Mahomes had been pressured in less than 2.5 seconds on 24 snaps, or 43% of his dropbacks.

Brutal.

Oof. Loss.

43% of pressures in less than 2.5 seconds sure makes the probability of winning go down.

Of course the 9ers never dealt with that so it's moot.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
For those who missed it.

TTT before pressure is measured from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot. Has absolutely nothing to do with a QB being mobile or a pure pocket passer.

What's NextGen? From snap to throw (pressure or not).

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
For those who missed it.

TTT before pressure is measured from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot. Has absolutely nothing to do with a QB being mobile or a pure pocket passer.

What's NextGen? From snap to throw (pressure or not).

Yes. Next Gen doesn't have pressure vs non pressure splits. So there TTT is an average of all dropbacks. PFF definitions change for TTT depending on whether the QB was pressured or not. The PFF TTT for clean pocket is really just a snap to throw time and is meaningless when judging pass protection.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I know he won't rest until we've spent 5 1st round picks at every spot on the offensive line. And at least 3 backups drafted 4th or higher.

Nah, I'm stoked with the PP this year.

Just need a high priced center amiright

Yes. I wanted Ryan Jensen in FA.

Jensen was on all of my offseason mocks too. I was pissed when he went to Tampa.

I wonder if we can trade for Quinn Meinerz and train him to be a center. Williams, Banks, Meinerz, Poe, Burford?

This makes my PP happy

LMAO. I knew that was coming. What's Poe's PFF off season grade? LOL

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
For those who missed it.

TTT before pressure is measured from snap to when the QB is moved off his spot. Has absolutely nothing to do with a QB being mobile or a pure pocket passer.

What's NextGen? From snap to throw (pressure or not).

Yes. Next Gen doesn't have pressure vs non pressure splits. So there TTT is an average of all dropbacks. PFF definitions change for TTT depending on whether the QB was pressured or not. The PFF TTT for clean pocket is really just a snap to throw time and is meaningless when judging pass protection.

Originally posted by NCommand:
More time does not always equate to more open options. This team was NOT good off schedule.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL, the one you found had to be against our defense.

Find any classic pocket passers?

Burrows might have one but he's pretty athletic.

Either way, the point stands.

QB pressures go up, probability of winning goes down. Not rocket science.

Like this one: https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/tampa-bay-buccaneers-dominany-defense-analysis-super-bowl

According to Pro Football Focus, Mahomes had been pressured in less than 2.5 seconds on 24 snaps, or 43% of his dropbacks.

Brutal.

Oof. Loss.

43% of pressures in less than 2.5 seconds sure makes the probability of winning go down.

Of course the 9ers never dealt with that so it's moot.