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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
49ers QBs stay injured. Probably won't change until the FO decides to actually do something with the line. Once TW retires this team is f*****

None of the 3 qb Inuries last year were primarily the fault of the o line.

The four QB injuries. Two in the NFC title game. Whose primary fault could it be other than the OL?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by random49er:
How can you bash us for trying to stack our talent in our "deep front" as well then?

You've said countless times that we over-emphasize our defensive line. How can you compliment other teams for doing the same, then?

Doesn't seem to add up.

DTs are a dime a dozen until the Eagles use back to back top 15 picks on em.

Gotta love the nonstop hypocrisy

Yup, let one go, draft another...add another ER. We did the same, bought a 3T, drafted ER's. Also, I'm always referring to DT's who aren't strong in pass rush when I say that given the size of the pool. Although there seems to be quite a pool of ER's available annually as well now too with the overdrafting of these positions. Given we're the #1 defense with or without Buckner, AA, Kinlaw, Givens, DJ Jones, etc. and a million others plus the annual influx of former 1st-3rd round B-list ER's, it's safe to say there is no shortage in the pool.

A-list DT's who can pass rush like, Hargrave? That's a whole other story. No #10a12 there.

If you need to go cheaper from a team building perspective, DL is the way to go. B-listers + Kocurek still gets you a #1 defense overall esp. in a league that doesn't run anymore.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 29, 2023 at 3:23 PM ]
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
49ers QBs stay injured. Probably won't change until the FO decides to actually do something with the line. Once TW retires this team is f*****

None of the 3 qb Inuries last year were primarily the fault of the o line.

The four QB injuries. Two in the NFC title game. Whose primary fault could it be other than the OL?

If you're asking 9ers4eva, it's always the QB's fault.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by random49er:
How can you bash us for trying to stack our talent in our "deep front" as well then?

You've said countless times that we over-emphasize our defensive line. How can you compliment other teams for doing the same, then?

Doesn't seem to add up.

DTs are a dime a dozen until the Eagles use back to back top 15 picks on em.

Gotta love the nonstop hypocrisy

Yup, let one go, draft another...add another ER. We did the same, bought a 3T, drafted ER's. Also, I'm always referring to DT's who aren't strong in pass rush when I say that given the size of the pool. Although there seems to be quite a pool of ER's available annually as well now too with the overdrafting of these positions. Given we're the #1 defense with or without Buckner, AA, Kinlaw, Givens, DJ Jones, etc. and a million others plus the annual influx of former 1st-3rd round B-list ER's, it's safe to say there is no shortage in the pool.

A-list DDT's who can pass rush like Hargrave? That's a whole other story.

If you need to go cheaper from a team building perspective, DL is the way to go. B-listers + Kocurek still gets you a #1 defense overall esp. in a league that doesn't run anymore.

Looks like you and me fighting for that that RT spot
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by random49er:
How can you bash us for trying to stack our talent in our "deep front" as well then?

You've said countless times that we over-emphasize our defensive line. How can you compliment other teams for doing the same, then?

Doesn't seem to add up.

DTs are a dime a dozen until the Eagles use back to back top 15 picks on em.

Gotta love the nonstop hypocrisy

Yup, let one go, draft another...add another ER. We did the same, bought a 3T, drafted ER's. Also, I'm always referring to DT's who aren't strong in pass rush when I say that given the size of the pool. Although there seems to be quite a pool of ER's available annually as well now too with the overdrafting of these positions. Given we're the #1 defense with or without Buckner, AA, Kinlaw, Givens, DJ Jones, etc. and a million others plus the annual influx of former 1st-3rd round B-list ER's, it's safe to say there is no shortage in the pool.

A-list DDT's who can pass rush like Hargrave? That's a whole other story.

If you need to go cheaper from a team building perspective, DL is the way to go. B-listers + Kocurek still gets you a #1 defense overall esp. in a league that doesn't run anymore.

Looks like you and me fighting for that that RT spot

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
The four QB injuries. Two in the NFC title game. Whose primary fault could it be other than the OL?

Treys case it was just how a guy fell on him

Jimmy case it was him trying to get more yards

Brocks case it was a miss TE block

Other teams had far worse pass protection stats and didn't have the qb injuries we did. Shows there isn't a correlation.
The Eagles and Chiefs O lines are supposedly elite and both their QBs got hurt too. Yet somehow the Vikings, without an elite OL, Kept Cousins healthy.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
The four QB injuries. Two in the NFC title game. Whose primary fault could it be other than the OL?

Treys case it was just how a guy fell on him

Jimmy case it was him trying to get more yards

Brocks case it was a miss TE block

Other teams had far worse pass protection stats and didn't have the qb injuries we did. Shows there isn't a correlation.

And the previous 5 years too? Just bad luck?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup, let one go, draft another...add another ER. We did the same, bought a 3T, drafted ER's. Also, I'm always referring to DT's who aren't strong in pass rush when I say that given the size of the pool. Although there seems to be quite a pool of ER's available annually as well now too with the overdrafting of these positions. Given we're the #1 defense with or without Buckner, AA, Kinlaw, Givens, DJ Jones, etc. and a million others plus the annual influx of former 1st-3rd round B-list ER's, it's safe to say there is no shortage in the pool.

A-list DT's who can pass rush like, Hargrave? That's a whole other story. No #10a12 there.

If you need to go cheaper from a team building perspective, DL is the way to go. B-listers + Kocurek still gets you a #1 defense overall esp. in a league that doesn't run anymore.

What part about Jordan Davis game screams A list pass rusher?
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the previous 5 years too? Just bad luck?

There's no correlation to qb health and o line rankings that I can see.

Again your elite O lines had their QBs get hurt too.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the previous 5 years too? Just bad luck?

There's no correlation to qb health and o line rankings that I can see.

Again your elite O lines had their QBs get hurt too.

I know when I watch a game and its 3rd and long I pray to the football gods the right side holds up. Lets see this year. I actually expect pass protection to improve but maybe run blocking is worse.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I know when I watch a game and its 3rd and long I pray to the football gods the right side holds up. Lets see this year. I actually expect pass protection to improve but maybe run blocking is worse.

I was usually praying the ball wasn't thrown right to a linebacker but then Purdy took over.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I know when I watch a game and its 3rd and long I pray to the football gods the right side holds up. Lets see this year. I actually expect pass protection to improve but maybe run blocking is worse.

I was usually praying the ball wasn't thrown right to a linebacker but then Purdy took over.

And got hurt too. LOL
Originally posted by NCommand:
And got hurt too. LOL

Tight ends miss blocks too.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And got hurt too. LOL

Tight ends miss blocks too.

This is a weird hill to die on lol
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