49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I don't know. Taking a tackle at 99 wouldn't make it a yes.

Everyone said the OL depth this year was weak. I compared the past four years and that assessment seems accurate.

Rd 20 21 - 22 - 23
1 - 5 -- 4 -- 9 -- 5
2 - 7 -- 9 -- 3 -- 7
3 - 7 -- 8 -- 8 -- 3
4 - 6 -- 6 -- 5 - 10
5 - 2 -- 4 -- 4 -- 6
6 - 6 -- 7 - 10 -- 4
7 - 5 -- 4 -- 5 -- 7
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40 -- 42 - 44 - 42

The numbers seem to confirm that the depth this year was a round lower than in prior years. The total in the first two rounds is about the save in aggregate.

For those hoping for a 4th round pick or lower to beef up the OL, history shows the odds of that are not good.

In 2022, there were 13 of 38 Centers picked in the 4th or lower.
13 of the top 60 OGs and 13 of the top 60 OTs. (13 is the lucky number)

All of that to say, the FO probably made the right move not using 4th-round picks or lower to improve the OL. They obviously believe what we have is better than what we could have gotten.

Thanks for this but the entire draft was said to be middle round heavy and lower on the front end. Meaning the pool of quality players was in the middle round which is why Lynch said he was excited; in a year where they didn't have the first two rounds this was the year to have that scenario. It was also the most or second most trades ever.

The point of it was general information for those wondering why there were no players picked in later rounds. Mostly camp fodder.

Yes, the 49ers were set up well considering the draft class. I would imagine this might have had some impact on the willingness to bring CMC over. Giving up a 2 was a bit costly but the 3 and 4 would not be worth nearly as much as CMC. Peters and his friends likely had some play in that.

Originally posted by NCommand:
OUR low picks haven't developed and especially nowhere near the aforementioned. That's a product of poor OL identification and/or poor development. And lack of dart throwing. So this year they bypassed it altogether. Problem solved. LOL

Burford was certainly not a top-end candidate. He was from a small school picked in the 4th round. He had an up-and-down year last year but showed a lot of promise.

From what we see, they think McKivitz is ready to take over from McGlinchey. He only had about 75 snaps last season but it was a very good game.

Burford good, banks good, brendel good, let's see how mcivitz gonna turn out

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I don't know. Taking a tackle at 99 wouldn't make it a yes.

Everyone said the OL depth this year was weak. I compared the past four years and that assessment seems accurate.

Rd 20 21 - 22 - 23
1 - 5 -- 4 -- 9 -- 5
2 - 7 -- 9 -- 3 -- 7
3 - 7 -- 8 -- 8 -- 3
4 - 6 -- 6 -- 5 - 10
5 - 2 -- 4 -- 4 -- 6
6 - 6 -- 7 - 10 -- 4
7 - 5 -- 4 -- 5 -- 7
________________________
40 -- 42 - 44 - 42

The numbers seem to confirm that the depth this year was a round lower than in prior years. The total in the first two rounds is about the save in aggregate.

For those hoping for a 4th round pick or lower to beef up the OL, history shows the odds of that are not good.

In 2022, there were 13 of 38 Centers picked in the 4th or lower.
13 of the top 60 OGs and 13 of the top 60 OTs. (13 is the lucky number)

All of that to say, the FO probably made the right move not using 4th-round picks or lower to improve the OL. They obviously believe what we have is better than what we could have gotten.

Thanks for this but the entire draft was said to be middle round heavy and lower on the front end. Meaning the pool of quality players was in the middle round which is why Lynch said he was excited; in a year where they didn't have the first two rounds this was the year to have that scenario. It was also the most or second most trades ever.

The point of it was general information for those wondering why there were no players picked in later rounds. Mostly camp fodder.

Yes, the 49ers were set up well considering the draft class. I would imagine this might have had some impact on the willingness to bring CMC over. Giving up a 2 was a bit costly but the 3 and 4 would not be worth nearly as much as CMC. Peters and his friends likely had some play in that.

Totally gotcha. I genuinely appreciate the work and perspective here. Good stuff.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
OUR low picks haven't developed and especially nowhere near the aforementioned. That's a product of poor OL identification and/or poor development. And lack of dart throwing. So this year they bypassed it altogether. Problem solved. LOL

Burford was certainly not a top-end candidate. He was from a small school picked in the 4th round. He had an up-and-down year last year but showed a lot of promise.

From what we see, they think McKivitz is ready to take over from McGlinchey. He only had about 75 snaps last season but it was a very good game.

4th is certainly on the fringe but this was a guy they had been following since high school. I agree. He's got all the physical attributes one needs. If he learns to put it altogether, he'll be a steal. I'm hopeful here.

McKivitz will be a first time 17-20 game starter. That's a whole other level. I said the same about Brendel and he was steady as hell. His work ethic is off the charts. I was all for resigning him even if he doesn't have the highest talent ceiling.

But pair McKivitz next to a young Burford and it could be pretty scary for a while.

We'll just have to see how it plays out. Who knows what Foerster has in store for this young group. I have been pretty impressed with him esp. after last year.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Norwell was a proven 24 year old all pro and Jensen was a monster.

Clearly, this is the same field of Colton McKivitz who was cut last year for Jaylon Moore. LOL.

So developing low round picks and undrafted players only matters on other rosters. Convenient.

What about Colton to date has you thinking he is in that bucket?

I'm for adding talent at every level. Just add it. Prioritize it like it matters. Demonstrate a Championship level standard vs. "good enough" and "we hope."

Lol give it a rest

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Our OL doesn't suck by any means. It's just going to get punked in the playoffs unless something magical happens. And it could...just playing the odds on the current talent level and who we're likely to face.

But a guy picked at 99 would prevent that?

They were going to.......had the card for a RT in hand.

But just to F.W. NC and get some laughs at his rants on here for another year they took the kicker.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
The dudes that think we have a bad oline are punching the air right now

This is clearly a staff that's like "whatever,...we'll just pay for one" once a key peace leaves.

They are going to draft the guys they're good at developing and going to buy the guys they're not good at developing. Jimmy G anyone?

That's this staff's M.O. and they're not going to deviate very much from it.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Our OL doesn't suck by any means. It's just going to get punked in the playoffs unless something magical happens. And it could...just playing the odds on the current talent level and who we're likely to face., But a guy picked at 99 would prevent that?

At 99 (or 87), there were only a handful of T's and IOL taken. Adding to a talent pool can never hurt (see also, DL, LB, S, WR, etc.).

15 is a little more than a handful last I checked bud.

Given there's 400 OL, yeah, not that deep into the pool. LOL. It certainly didn't stop the other teams from adding.

Last year the 16th, 17th and 18th linemen taken were all drafted in round 3. None played a single OL snap.

So how is taking an OL at 99 going to assure our OL doesn't get punked in the playoffs?

Haha. Still waiting for a legit answer to this one. It's just fun to complain I guess.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Why didn't the 49ers take an O-lineman? For the very reason that we stated a little bit ago.

Shanahan: "There wasn't one there who would fit."
Lynch: "We weren't going to take one just to take one."

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 29, 2023

Lynch says that the 49ers not taking an O-lineman is "very much" a vote of confidence in Colton McKivitz, the favorite to start at RT

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 29, 2023

Pin this quote for future reference.

Or pick the 2-3 names you take that low instead of waiting for "ONE" out of dozens of them to develop,.... then pointing the finger?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Norwell was a proven 24 year old all pro and Jensen was a monster.

Clearly, this is the same field of Colton McKivitz who was cut last year for Jaylon Moore. LOL.

So developing low round picks and undrafted players only matters on other rosters. Convenient.

What about Colton to date has you thinking he is in that bucket?

I'm for adding talent at every level. Just add it. Prioritize it like it matters. Demonstrate a Championship level standard vs. "good enough" and "we hope."

Lol give it a rest

If/when Colton struggles, we'll make sure to note the FO, you and 9ers4eva had all the faith in the world in him; so much so, nothing else needed to be done at the position. #GoodEnough

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Norwell was a proven 24 year old all pro and Jensen was a monster.

Clearly, this is the same field of Colton McKivitz who was cut last year for Jaylon Moore. LOL.

So developing low round picks and undrafted players only matters on other rosters. Convenient.

What about Colton to date has you thinking he is in that bucket?

I'm for adding talent at every level. Just add it. Prioritize it like it matters. Demonstrate a Championship level standard vs. "good enough" and "we hope."

Lol give it a rest

If/when Colton struggles, we'll make sure to note the FO, you and 9ers4eva had all the faith in the world in him; so much so, nothing else needed to be done at the position. #GoodEnough

Kind of like how you said the OL would be crap last year, every tear for that matter, and we all said we would give it time before rushing to judgement then what do you know, top 5 OL.
its ok we all know you are desperately rooting for him to fail so you can tell everyone how right you were .

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Kind of like how you said the OL would be crap last year, every tear for that matter, and we all said we would give it time before rushing to judgement then what do you know, top 5 OL.
its ok we all know you are desperately rooting for him to fail so you can tell everyone how right you were .

His first reaction after the SB was that. It's his whole shtick.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Kind of like how you said the OL would be crap last year, every tear for that matter, and we all said we would give it time before rushing to judgement then what do you know, top 5 OL.
its ok we all know you are desperately rooting for him to fail so you can tell everyone how right you were .

His first reaction after the SB was that. It's his whole shtick.

Yup last year as well and the NFCCG before that. Was downright giddy

Ratings of NFL offensive lines taken between end of the 2022 season to after the 2023 draft regarding the 49ers, the Eagles who beat the 49ers in the title game, and the team that beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The Sporting News
2 Eagles
4 Chiefs
16 49ers

Pro Football Network
1 Eagles
2 Chiefs
11 49ers

Sharp Football Analysis
2 Eagles
4 Chiefs
9 49ers

Fantasy Sports Newsletter
1 Eagles
9 49ers
11 Chiefs

Lineups
1 Eagles
4 Chiefs
9 49ers