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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is the 49ers issue (one of them, but a big one)...pressure and unit PP fails when it matters most (playoffs). A young Purdy did a solid job given the circumstances but you're not winning a Superbowl with line play like this.

Did we improve or will this be ground hog day in the playoffs again?

PS: I didn't even note the run blocking woes either but they usually go hand-in-hand.



https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166289-evaluating-49ers-brock-purdys-performance-against-cowboys/

...the Cowboys brought the heat, pressuring the rookie quarterback on 48.5% of his dropbacks, which is a career-high.

You are correct....We are not winning if we lose all our QB's to right side blitzing safeties. Last year we had a tight end kill us without a RT looking out for the Eagles best pass rusher by calling time out or shading over to pick him up. Maybe a bad play call but horrible outcome. Still have PTSD on that one.

Yup, it's not that hard to see after all these years (with the exception of a few fans still). You watch that Cowboys game and Kyle knew his OL would get destroyed, hence all the quick routes and screens. But the Cowboys were all over those too. You think Reid had to do that against Philly? Nope. He had a top 2 OL.

If the actual goal is to get WIN the Superbowl, this is a big area that needs to be improved esp. during the playoffs. Not just for our QB but for Kyle, the play caller as well.

Perhaps it has??? Let's find out. But if it hasn't, expect ground hog day all over again.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 24, 2023 at 9:37 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup, it's not that hard to see after all these years (with the exception of a few fans still). You watch that Cowboys game and Kyle knew his OL would get destroyed, hence all the quick routes and screens. But the Cowboys were all over those too. You think Reid had to do that against Philly? Nope. He had a top 2 OL.

If the actual goal is to get WIN the Superbowl, this is a big area that needs to be improved esp. during the playoffs. Not just for our QB but for Kyle, the play caller as well.

Perhaps it has??? Let's find out. But if it hasn't, expect ground hog day all over again.

My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40

that is a good and optimistic thought, he had his walkoff game into the sunset vs his former team.. watch out.. Commanders
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.

His injury last year was when a guy rolled into him. No system stops that from happenning
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.

I agree. The left side looks good, it's the right side scaring the crap out of me. I just hope it's nothing and my fear takes a back seat to winning the NFC this year. We just need to see it work.
Health is gonna Health in football. Why concern yourself over it? Enjoy the ride.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.

His injury last year was when a guy rolled into him. No system stops that from happenning

He misses games every year though. The system will continue to ask him to be active. He's getting older. That simply increases the odds.

That said, maybe he holds off Father Time and stays healthy for a few more years!
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.

I agree. The left side looks good, it's the right side scaring the crap out of me. I just hope it's nothing and my fear takes a back seat to winning the NFC this year. We just need to see it work.

100%. Hopefully the talent is there and it comes together for the playoffs. Of course, that goes for the entire line. Playoffs are where it matters most.
I've been saying this for years and it's still true: the QB CANNOT THROW WHILE HE IS SITTING ON HIS A$$!!! Tell me what happened to #13 in the NFCCG last year? If there are not serious investments made in the future for the OLine, the end of the coming seasons will continue to be the NFCCG or worse
[ Edited by NinerTy on Jun 30, 2023 at 11:22 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
My suspicion NC is that Trent is jumping the shark as we speak. Turns 35 next month. Is it realistic to expect him to be the best LT in the game anymore?

Whitworth was still a top 5 guy at damn near 40

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about his play dropping off. My concern is his annual health concerns. A standard few games might become more as he gets older as this system asks a lot and he only knows how to play all-out on every play.

I agree. The left side looks good, it's the right side scaring the crap out of me. I just hope it's nothing and my fear takes a back seat to winning the NFC this year. We just need to see it work.

100%. Hopefully the talent is there and it comes together for the playoffs. Of course, that goes for the entire line. Playoffs are where it matters most.

The playoffs are were this shows against top level pass rush. If we just brush over it again and again, as you said it's ground hog day.
Originally posted by NinerTy:
I've been saying this for years and it's still true: the QB CANNOT THROW WHILE HE IS SITTING ON HIS A$$!!! Tell me what happened to #13 in the NFCCG last year? If there are not serious investments made in the future for the OLine, the end of the coming seasons will continue to be the NFCCG or worse

💯 agree
Originally posted by NinerTy:
I've been saying this for years and it's still true: the QB CANNOT THROW WHILE HE IS SITTING ON HIS A$$!!! Tell me what happened to #13 in the NFCCG last year? If there are not serious investments made in the future for the OLine, the end of the coming seasons will continue to be the NFCCG or worse

O line wasn't responsible for the NFC championship game injury.
Originally posted by NinerTy:
I've been saying this for years and it's still true: the QB CANNOT THROW WHILE HE IS SITTING ON HIS A$$!!! Tell me what happened to #13 in the NFCCG last year? If there are not serious investments made in the future for the OLine, the end of the coming seasons will continue to be the NFCCG or worse

you've never met Kyle Boller
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