49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nope. Dude right in front of him and HR around the edge.

Cox isn't right in front of him. He's pushed to the side. If he shuffles forward he can make the throw.

It's all splitting hairs though. Chiefs just happened to be more fortunate.

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This.

No chance. It was a play action and by the time he plants (long developing play), it's over. Plus to make it work, he needs to stay deep in that drop. I don't see any lane to realistically step up into or run through once his back foot is dropped. I think that's pretty unrealistic and unfair to ask.

There is a chance, but that ball should have been thrown sooner. BP since the raider game, started taking longer/hesitating on his reads. I mentioned after that raider game, if he continues to do that, he will get hurt as he nearly had the same thing that happened in philly happened in LV.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nope. Dude right in front of him and HR around the edge.

Cox isn't right in front of him. He's pushed to the side. If he shuffles forward he can make the throw.

It's all splitting hairs though. Chiefs just happened to be more fortunate.

This.

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No chance. It was a play action and by the time he plants (long developing play), it's over. Plus to make it work, he needs to stay deep in that drop. I don't see any lane to realistically step up into or run through once his back foot is dropped. I think that's pretty unrealistic and unfair to ask.

There is a chance, but that ball should have been thrown sooner. BP since the raider game, started taking longer/hesitating on his reads. I mentioned after that raider game, if he continues to do that, he will get hurt as he nearly had the same thing that happened in philly happened in LV.

That's probably true but I haven't seen the All-22 but from the time he executed the PA and planted/set, it was bang-bang either way. Sucks!

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nope. Dude right in front of him and HR around the edge.

Cox isn't right in front of him. He's pushed to the side. If he shuffles forward he can make the throw.

It's all splitting hairs though. Chiefs just happened to be more fortunate.

This.

No chance. It was a play action and by the time he plants (long developing play), it's over. Plus to make it work, he needs to stay deep in that drop. I don't see any lane to realistically step up into or run through once his back foot is dropped. I think that's pretty unrealistic and unfair to ask.

+ Show all quotes There is a chance, but that ball should have been thrown sooner. BP since the raider game, started taking longer/hesitating on his reads. I mentioned after that raider game, if he continues to do that, he will get hurt as he nearly had the same thing that happened in philly happened in LV.

That's probably true but I haven't seen the All-22 but from the time he executed the PA and planted/set, it was bang-bang either way. Sucks!

That's why in this case it was not just the line. It was the play call with Kroft as the TE. Kittle may have extended enough so Brock hits Aiyuk on the inside slant when he was open.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nope. Dude right in front of him and HR around the edge.

Cox isn't right in front of him. He's pushed to the side. If he shuffles forward he can make the throw.

It's all splitting hairs though. Chiefs just happened to be more fortunate.

This.

No chance. It was a play action and by the time he plants (long developing play), it's over. Plus to make it work, he needs to stay deep in that drop. I don't see any lane to realistically step up into or run through once his back foot is dropped. I think that's pretty unrealistic and unfair to ask.

There is a chance, but that ball should have been thrown sooner. BP since the raider game, started taking longer/hesitating on his reads. I mentioned after that raider game, if he continues to do that, he will get hurt as he nearly had the same thing that happened in philly happened in LV.

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That's probably true but I haven't seen the All-22 but from the time he executed the PA and planted/set, it was bang-bang either way. Sucks!

That's why in this case it was not just the line. It was the play call with Kroft as the TE. Kittle may have extended enough so Brock hits Aiyuk on the inside slant when he was open.

True. Kittle himself said he wished it was him in PP there.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nope. Dude right in front of him and HR around the edge.

Cox isn't right in front of him. He's pushed to the side. If he shuffles forward he can make the throw.

It's all splitting hairs though. Chiefs just happened to be more fortunate.

This.

No chance. It was a play action and by the time he plants (long developing play), it's over. Plus to make it work, he needs to stay deep in that drop. I don't see any lane to realistically step up into or run through once his back foot is dropped. I think that's pretty unrealistic and unfair to ask.

There is a chance, but that ball should have been thrown sooner. BP since the raider game, started taking longer/hesitating on his reads. I mentioned after that raider game, if he continues to do that, he will get hurt as he nearly had the same thing that happened in philly happened in LV.

That's probably true but I haven't seen the All-22 but from the time he executed the PA and planted/set, it was bang-bang either way. Sucks!

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That's why in this case it was not just the line. It was the play call with Kroft as the TE. Kittle may have extended enough so Brock hits Aiyuk on the inside slant when he was open.

True. Kittle himself said he wished it was him in PP there.

That's why there is still some depression around that play. I really thought we were going to get 6 last year. 😪

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

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Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

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Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

+ Show all quotes so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

+ Show all quotes so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

+ Show all quotes Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

I did not have faith last year either so had the same fear as last year with MM. Don't know what your point is. Oh well lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

+ Show all quotes not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

I did not have faith last year either so had the same fear as last year with MM. Don't know what your point is. Oh well lol.

i'm saying don't worry about it. we ended up being a top 5 OL with 3 unknowns last year. now, it just a one unknown.

Mick did do well when Big Trent was out a few games

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

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I did not have faith last year either so had the same fear as last year with MM. Don't know what your point is. Oh well lol.

i'm saying don't worry about it. we ended up being a top 5 OL with 3 unknowns last year. now, it just a one unknown.

Mick did do well when Big Trent was out a few games

Top 5?

This was last year. Only 1 49er (Trent Williams) on the list of best OL and 1 ex-49er (Trent Brown).

https://trenchwarfare.substack.com/p/ranking-the-top-15-players-at-each-7eb

It'll be cool to see if any of the interior 49ers make the list this year!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
If your thinking McKivitz, that is the unknown and was not that good last year. MM was not even that great but at least he was serviceable. We shall see, hopefully we are OK but if not and line is in digression, it will cost us in a quest for 6.

Lenoir is still an unknown too. The whole secondary could digress. As could the kicking game. As could the pass rush.

Unknown isn't always a negative. Had someone told you last year at this time Brock Purdy would start the last 5 regular season games you would've expected zero wins. The unknown is the unknown.

Yes true... however the O line is more of a concern. The old cliche *the game is won in the trenches* is so true. We are great on paper for the D line and from last years outstanding performance which helps the secondary, The O line not so much, which helps the skill players we have. That's why we shall see.

so you're more concerned now, than last year when we had first time starters at RG C LG ?

Yes we have an untested right tackle and the guard was OK. Yes I am on the right side as I mentioned earlier. Left side is good and the center looked above average as well.

not sure how 1 guy is more than 3

I did not have faith last year either so had the same fear as last year with MM. Don't know what your point is. Oh well lol.

+ Show all quotes i'm saying don't worry about it. we ended up being a top 5 OL with 3 unknowns last year. now, it just a one unknown.

Mick did do well when Big Trent was out a few games

Top 5?

This was last year. Only 1 49er (Trent Williams) on the list of best OL and 1 ex-49er (Trent Brown).

https://trenchwarfare.substack.com/p/ranking-the-top-15-players-at-each-7eb

It'll be cool to see if any of the interior 49ers make the list this year!

Trench warfare sounds like the type of website NC would frequent.
Good share.
When you talk about interior young OL play, look at KC ranks. That's a complete team, I know what ppl say about the QB, and he can play, no question, but it's a complete squad they have built.