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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.


Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

Chiefs had an absolutely awful RT and a mid tier LT (and that's being generous to him). Do you know why that didn't matter?! I'll give you a hint: had nothing to do with their offensive line.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Chiefs had an absolutely awful RT and a mid tier LT (and that's being generous to him). Do you know why that didn't matter?! I'll give you a hint: had nothing to do with their offensive line.

Ding ding ding
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

Chiefs had an absolutely awful RT and a mid tier LT (and that's being generous to him). Do you know why that didn't matter?! I'll give you a hint: had nothing to do with their offensive line.

What are you talking about? Chiefs had the highest rated OL last year and through the playoffs. So much so the first thing PM noted in his Superbowl speech was giving the OL the credit in PP for being the least sacked QB. PM is a unicorn too. Both can be and are true.
Originally posted by NCommand:
What are you talking about? Chiefs had the highest rated OL last year and through the playoffs. So much so the first thing PM noted in his Superbowl speech was giving the OL the credit in PP for being the least sacked QB. PM is a unicorn too. Both can be and are true.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-nfl-offensive-line-rankings

Is giving up 49 pressures quality now?
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Aug 11, 2023 at 8:56 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.


Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

You absolutely NAILED it!!!
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
What are you talking about? Chiefs had the highest rated OL last year and through the playoffs. So much so the first thing PM noted in his Superbowl speech was giving the OL the credit in PP for being the least sacked QB. PM is a unicorn too. Both can be and are true.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-nfl-offensive-line-rankings

Is giving up 49 pressures quality now?

And? You think every OL is going to have an all pro at every spot on it? And how did he do in the playoffs? They're simply pointing out the weakest link of their top 4 OL.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.


Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

You absolutely NAILED it!!!

Tried and true formula. At least the best odds.
According to the story on McDaniel's after practice presser, Chandler Jones didn't practice today.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
According to the story on McDaniel's after practice presser, Chandler Jones didn't practice today.

Good context. Thanks.
NC, give me your confidence rating, on a scale of 1-10 here
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NC, give me your confidence rating, on a scale of 1-10 here

Right now?

Regular season - top 10 (slightly better PP > RB)
Playoffs - bottom 2 to middle of the pack.
Originally posted by NCommand:
And? You think every OL is going to have an all pro at every spot on it? And how did he do in the playoffs? They're simply pointing out the weakest link of their top 4 OL.

He didn't do particularly well. Was particularly bad agains the Bengals. Rest of the o line was fine but Pat made them look a lot better because that's what he does.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And? You think every OL is going to have an all pro at every spot on it? And how did he do in the playoffs? They're simply pointing out the weakest link of their top 4 OL.

He didn't do particularly well. Was particularly bad agains the Bengals. Rest of the o line was fine but Pat made them look a lot better because that's what he does.

Nobody else has PM though. You're far better off buying or developing a better OL.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NC, give me your confidence rating, on a scale of 1-10 here

Right now?

Regular season - top 10 (slightly better PP > RB)
Playoffs - bottom 2 to middle of the pack.

The PHI game did a number on you I see, I can't blame you
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