49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.

Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

OL and DL are completely different. You can turn some raw DL into good players, but that's not so often with the OL. Much easier to invest and build up the DL.

You keep wanting this elite all pro overall roster and it's just not gonna happen, theres only so much cap / draft picks that a team has. On top of that OL position is by far the hardest in the NFL to develop, and then the main issue is that you don't have 10+ quality OL in every draft like you do DL.

In the end OL wasn't the deciding factor let's stop that lol. Plus, a great DL will beat a great OL.

That's the same philosophy that costs us every year. It's just the opposite. DL don't win your championships and as we've proven, are a dime a dozen with the exception of a few great ones with excellent pass rush ability (we have 2). The market is so oversatturated we're constantly getting former 1st rounders off the street and are still #1 with numerous injuries and annual turnover.

This isn't the 1990's where a dominant run game or DL will win you anything in the end. Philly had a historic DL and they were completely neutralized by a #1 ranked OL. What an odd time to say otherwise. LOL

And when that unicorn doesn't have that top OL, he's minced meat and reduced to nothing more than a hero-ball QB playing backyard ball hoping his receivers can read his off script game on the fly. Hence why Andy bought him a new one the next year with more of a focus on the short controlled game. Championships.

He lost it again after this latest win. Guess what will happen this year.

I literally just said no team is going to have an all pro at every OL spot. The key is the prioritization of it by every means possible and the prioritization on excellent unit PP from all and hitting your peak through the playoffs. Add that to a QB also playing at that level and there's your annual winning formula tried and true.

Site your source. Because every site I have seen has Philly as #1 and chiefs were somewhere around 4 or 5 last season. Philly's #1 ranked O line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while KC's gave up none.

You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

Before the 2022 season? That is a bit disingenuous because that is not the way the season played out. So really it was the #5 ranked O line that ended up winning the SB and not the #1 O line. Our O line finished the season ranked 7th. Not too far off from KC's. In fact, according to pff, 49ers O line was ranked 5th in PBLK a head of KC who was ranked 6th.

What really happened in the SB was Philly's D relied heavily on that pass rush to get to the QB quickly but were pretty much neutralized by the poor field conditions. Shhh. Don't tell Philly fans that. If we are not allowed to use a rare UCL tear as an excuse than they cannot use the field conditions as one neither.

Regular season doesn't matter if the goal is a Superbowl win.

But as we saw against, Dallas and eventually Philly's D, our OL was nowhere near that level of play in the playoffs.

Buuuuut, they shouldn't have been. They far exceeded expectations for year 1. And yes, there's a chance they can get there this year even with swapping McGlinchey for McKivitz.

Nah, KC and Philly played on the same field. And if the weather is the issue, that's more proof you shouldn't overly invest in a DL.

How the hell does a team make it into the playoffs if the regular season doesn't matter? Of course it matters. But if you want to get technical. Philly's O line was ranked #1 and KC's was ranked 4th in PBLK in the playoffs. The difference between the #1 and #4 was a 13.4 grading difference. KC's O line was actually closer in grading with the 49ers than it was with the eagles. Besides, it wasn't the O line that was at fault for Purdy's injury.

Well of course it matters to get in. Haha.

I mean when it comes to the playoffs, talent will have to show up and that's when it's exposed, so if you've got by with a Tom Compton playing solid RT in the regular season, even slightly better than MM, you know he's going to be exposed in the playoffs.

Agreed, that's unit PP, not the OL there, specifically. The concussion was though. The OL needed to play at an elite level if we were going to have a chance that game. No chance, unfortunately.

I'd focus more on the Dallas game where they got smoked and if it wasn't for the defense playing the game of a century and closing a lead out finally, it would have been another playoff loss where the OL played a big part in it.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.

Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

OL and DL are completely different. You can turn some raw DL into good players, but that's not so often with the OL. Much easier to invest and build up the DL.

You keep wanting this elite all pro overall roster and it's just not gonna happen, theres only so much cap / draft picks that a team has. On top of that OL position is by far the hardest in the NFL to develop, and then the main issue is that you don't have 10+ quality OL in every draft like you do DL.

In the end OL wasn't the deciding factor let's stop that lol. Plus, a great DL will beat a great OL.

That's the same philosophy that costs us every year. It's just the opposite. DL don't win your championships and as we've proven, are a dime a dozen with the exception of a few great ones with excellent pass rush ability (we have 2). The market is so oversatturated we're constantly getting former 1st rounders off the street and are still #1 with numerous injuries and annual turnover.

This isn't the 1990's where a dominant run game or DL will win you anything in the end. Philly had a historic DL and they were completely neutralized by a #1 ranked OL. What an odd time to say otherwise. LOL

And when that unicorn doesn't have that top OL, he's minced meat and reduced to nothing more than a hero-ball QB playing backyard ball hoping his receivers can read his off script game on the fly. Hence why Andy bought him a new one the next year with more of a focus on the short controlled game. Championships.

He lost it again after this latest win. Guess what will happen this year.

I literally just said no team is going to have an all pro at every OL spot. The key is the prioritization of it by every means possible and the prioritization on excellent unit PP from all and hitting your peak through the playoffs. Add that to a QB also playing at that level and there's your annual winning formula tried and true.

Site your source. Because every site I have seen has Philly as #1 and chiefs were somewhere around 4 or 5 last season. Philly's #1 ranked O line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while KC's gave up none.

You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

Before the 2022 season? That is a bit disingenuous because that is not the way the season played out. So really it was the #5 ranked O line that ended up winning the SB and not the #1 O line. Our O line finished the season ranked 7th. Not too far off from KC's. In fact, according to pff, 49ers O line was ranked 5th in PBLK a head of KC who was ranked 6th.

What really happened in the SB was Philly's D relied heavily on that pass rush to get to the QB quickly but were pretty much neutralized by the poor field conditions. Shhh. Don't tell Philly fans that. If we are not allowed to use a rare UCL tear as an excuse than they cannot use the field conditions as one neither.

BT does mid season and playoff rankings too. They didn't change all year.

Regular season doesn't matter if the goal is a Superbowl win.

But as we saw against, Dallas and eventually Philly's D, our OL was nowhere near that level of play in the playoffs.

Buuuuut, they shouldn't have been. They far exceeded expectations for year 1. And yes, there's a chance they can get there this year even with swapping McGlinchey for McKivitz.

Nah, KC and Philly played on the same field. And if the weather is the issue, that's more proof you shouldn't overly invest in a DL.

Originally posted by NCommand:
What are you talking about? Chiefs had the highest rated OL last year and through the playoffs. So much so the first thing PM noted in his Superbowl speech was giving the OL the credit in PP for being the least sacked QB. PM is a unicorn too. Both can be and are true.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NCommand:
What are you talking about? Chiefs had the highest rated OL last year and through the playoffs. So much so the first thing PM noted in his Superbowl speech was giving the OL the credit in PP for being the least sacked QB. PM is a unicorn too. Both can be and are true.

Lol if you don't understand how the best QB in a generation masks bad OL. There is a reason they let their LT walk. He wasn't very good. Their RT was legitimately bad.

Again, it didn't matter because of their QB.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.

Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

OL and DL are completely different. You can turn some raw DL into good players, but that's not so often with the OL. Much easier to invest and build up the DL.

You keep wanting this elite all pro overall roster and it's just not gonna happen, theres only so much cap / draft picks that a team has. On top of that OL position is by far the hardest in the NFL to develop, and then the main issue is that you don't have 10+ quality OL in every draft like you do DL.

In the end OL wasn't the deciding factor let's stop that lol. Plus, a great DL will beat a great OL.

That's the same philosophy that costs us every year. It's just the opposite. DL don't win your championships and as we've proven, are a dime a dozen with the exception of a few great ones with excellent pass rush ability (we have 2). The market is so oversatturated we're constantly getting former 1st rounders off the street and are still #1 with numerous injuries and annual turnover.

This isn't the 1990's where a dominant run game or DL will win you anything in the end. Philly had a historic DL and they were completely neutralized by a #1 ranked OL. What an odd time to say otherwise. LOL

And when that unicorn doesn't have that top OL, he's minced meat and reduced to nothing more than a hero-ball QB playing backyard ball hoping his receivers can read his off script game on the fly. Hence why Andy bought him a new one the next year with more of a focus on the short controlled game. Championships.

He lost it again after this latest win. Guess what will happen this year.

I literally just said no team is going to have an all pro at every OL spot. The key is the prioritization of it by every means possible and the prioritization on excellent unit PP from all and hitting your peak through the playoffs. Add that to a QB also playing at that level and there's your annual winning formula tried and true.

Site your source. Because every site I have seen has Philly as #1 and chiefs were somewhere around 4 or 5 last season. Philly's #1 ranked O line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while KC's gave up none.

You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

Before the 2022 season? That is a bit disingenuous because that is not the way the season played out. So really it was the #5 ranked O line that ended up winning the SB and not the #1 O line. Our O line finished the season ranked 7th. Not too far off from KC's. In fact, according to pff, 49ers O line was ranked 5th in PBLK a head of KC who was ranked 6th.

What really happened in the SB was Philly's D relied heavily on that pass rush to get to the QB quickly but were pretty much neutralized by the poor field conditions. Shhh. Don't tell Philly fans that. If we are not allowed to use a rare UCL tear as an excuse than they cannot use the field conditions as one neither.

Regular season doesn't matter if the goal is a Superbowl win.

But as we saw against, Dallas and eventually Philly's D, our OL was nowhere near that level of play in the playoffs.

Buuuuut, they shouldn't have been. They far exceeded expectations for year 1. And yes, there's a chance they can get there this year even with swapping McGlinchey for McKivitz.

Nah, KC and Philly played on the same field. And if the weather is the issue, that's more proof you shouldn't overly invest in a DL.

How the hell does a team make it into the playoffs if the regular season doesn't matter? Of course it matters. But if you want to get technical. Philly's O line was ranked #1 and KC's was ranked 4th in PBLK in the playoffs. The difference between the #1 and #4 was a 13.4 grading difference. KC's O line was actually closer in grading with the 49ers than it was with the eagles. Besides, it wasn't the O line that was at fault for Purdy's injury.

Well of course it matters to get in. Haha.

I mean when it comes to the playoffs, talent will have to show up and that's when it's exposed, so if you've got by with a Tom Compton playing solid RT in the regular season, even slightly better than MM, you know he's going to be exposed in the playoffs.

Agreed, that's unit PP, not the OL there, specifically. The concussion was though. The OL needed to play at an elite level if we were going to have a chance that game. No chance, unfortunately.

I'd focus more on the Dallas game where they got smoked and if it wasn't for the defense playing the game of a century and closing a lead out finally, it would have been another playoff loss where the OL played a big part in it.

49ers had to face the #2 (DAL) pass rush and the #1 (PHI) pass rush in order to make it into the SB. While PHI had to face the 20th (NYG) ranked pass rush and the 7th (SF) ranked pass rush to make it to the SB. Simply, PHI's O line had a much easier path to the SB than the 49ers.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Pass protection ranked 24th in 2020, ranked 8th in 2021 and ranked 5th in 2022. That looks like a trend in the right direction to me. While McKivitz is still a big question mark at this point. I expect the 3 B's of the interior to be even better this season having another year of playing as a unit.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Brendel I have some issues with but as a vet who's solid and some guys like Poe/Zackjel in the wings I'm content with.

The right side of the line kinda scares me. McKivitz is a downgrade from McGlinchey and Burford is very inconsistent. I think the team might miss Brunskill in run blocking.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.

Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

OL and DL are completely different. You can turn some raw DL into good players, but that's not so often with the OL. Much easier to invest and build up the DL.

You keep wanting this elite all pro overall roster and it's just not gonna happen, theres only so much cap / draft picks that a team has. On top of that OL position is by far the hardest in the NFL to develop, and then the main issue is that you don't have 10+ quality OL in every draft like you do DL.

In the end OL wasn't the deciding factor let's stop that lol. Plus, a great DL will beat a great OL.

That's the same philosophy that costs us every year. It's just the opposite. DL don't win your championships and as we've proven, are a dime a dozen with the exception of a few great ones with excellent pass rush ability (we have 2). The market is so oversatturated we're constantly getting former 1st rounders off the street and are still #1 with numerous injuries and annual turnover.

This isn't the 1990's where a dominant run game or DL will win you anything in the end. Philly had a historic DL and they were completely neutralized by a #1 ranked OL. What an odd time to say otherwise. LOL

And when that unicorn doesn't have that top OL, he's minced meat and reduced to nothing more than a hero-ball QB playing backyard ball hoping his receivers can read his off script game on the fly. Hence why Andy bought him a new one the next year with more of a focus on the short controlled game. Championships.

He lost it again after this latest win. Guess what will happen this year.

I literally just said no team is going to have an all pro at every OL spot. The key is the prioritization of it by every means possible and the prioritization on excellent unit PP from all and hitting your peak through the playoffs. Add that to a QB also playing at that level and there's your annual winning formula tried and true.

Site your source. Because every site I have seen has Philly as #1 and chiefs were somewhere around 4 or 5 last season. Philly's #1 ranked O line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while KC's gave up none.

You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

Before the 2022 season? That is a bit disingenuous because that is not the way the season played out. So really it was the #5 ranked O line that ended up winning the SB and not the #1 O line. Our O line finished the season ranked 7th. Not too far off from KC's. In fact, according to pff, 49ers O line was ranked 5th in PBLK a head of KC who was ranked 6th.

What really happened in the SB was Philly's D relied heavily on that pass rush to get to the QB quickly but were pretty much neutralized by the poor field conditions. Shhh. Don't tell Philly fans that. If we are not allowed to use a rare UCL tear as an excuse than they cannot use the field conditions as one neither.

Regular season doesn't matter if the goal is a Superbowl win.

But as we saw against, Dallas and eventually Philly's D, our OL was nowhere near that level of play in the playoffs.

Buuuuut, they shouldn't have been. They far exceeded expectations for year 1. And yes, there's a chance they can get there this year even with swapping McGlinchey for McKivitz.

Nah, KC and Philly played on the same field. And if the weather is the issue, that's more proof you shouldn't overly invest in a DL.

How the hell does a team make it into the playoffs if the regular season doesn't matter? Of course it matters. But if you want to get technical. Philly's O line was ranked #1 and KC's was ranked 4th in PBLK in the playoffs. The difference between the #1 and #4 was a 13.4 grading difference. KC's O line was actually closer in grading with the 49ers than it was with the eagles. Besides, it wasn't the O line that was at fault for Purdy's injury.

Well of course it matters to get in. Haha.

I mean when it comes to the playoffs, talent will have to show up and that's when it's exposed, so if you've got by with a Tom Compton playing solid RT in the regular season, even slightly better than MM, you know he's going to be exposed in the playoffs.

Agreed, that's unit PP, not the OL there, specifically. The concussion was though. The OL needed to play at an elite level if we were going to have a chance that game. No chance, unfortunately.

I'd focus more on the Dallas game where they got smoked and if it wasn't for the defense playing the game of a century and closing a lead out finally, it would have been another playoff loss where the OL played a big part in it.

49ers had to face the #2 (DAL) pass rush and the #1 (PHI) pass rush in order to make it into the SB. While PHI had to face the 20th (NYG) ranked pass rush and the 7th (SF) ranked pass rush to make it to the SB. Simply, PHI's O line had a much easier path to the SB than the 49ers.

Yup. That's the playoffs. That won't change this year either, most likely.

Do you like our matchup?

Originally posted by NCommand:
You thought the Chiefs OL was bad?

If that's the case, I hope ours suck ass this year! Haha

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Interesting point here made by Whitworth starting at 220. He projects the niners as possible nfc Champs IF Purdybstays healthy and talks about the injury bug hitting the niners qbs. He then picks the Chiefs, citing Reid prioritizing the guys in front of mahommes.

Dude gets it for some odd reason. As do most of the HC's of a recent Superbowl team. The "talent" can come from anywhere too. Like QB's, you need a deep ass talented OL here because we'll probably use them all during the season at some point. And then they have to be hitting a very high level of play by the time the playoffs roll around; something Lombardi is just now catching up on in the differential of in-season vs. playoff play.

If they applied a 'similar' approach to the OL that they did/do with the DL, and prioritized PP as a unit more, we'd probably have 2 ships by now. IMHO, of course.

OL and DL are completely different. You can turn some raw DL into good players, but that's not so often with the OL. Much easier to invest and build up the DL.

You keep wanting this elite all pro overall roster and it's just not gonna happen, theres only so much cap / draft picks that a team has. On top of that OL position is by far the hardest in the NFL to develop, and then the main issue is that you don't have 10+ quality OL in every draft like you do DL.

In the end OL wasn't the deciding factor let's stop that lol. Plus, a great DL will beat a great OL.

That's the same philosophy that costs us every year. It's just the opposite. DL don't win your championships and as we've proven, are a dime a dozen with the exception of a few great ones with excellent pass rush ability (we have 2). The market is so oversatturated we're constantly getting former 1st rounders off the street and are still #1 with numerous injuries and annual turnover.

This isn't the 1990's where a dominant run game or DL will win you anything in the end. Philly had a historic DL and they were completely neutralized by a #1 ranked OL. What an odd time to say otherwise. LOL

And when that unicorn doesn't have that top OL, he's minced meat and reduced to nothing more than a hero-ball QB playing backyard ball hoping his receivers can read his off script game on the fly. Hence why Andy bought him a new one the next year with more of a focus on the short controlled game. Championships.

He lost it again after this latest win. Guess what will happen this year.

I literally just said no team is going to have an all pro at every OL spot. The key is the prioritization of it by every means possible and the prioritization on excellent unit PP from all and hitting your peak through the playoffs. Add that to a QB also playing at that level and there's your annual winning formula tried and true.

Site your source. Because every site I have seen has Philly as #1 and chiefs were somewhere around 4 or 5 last season. Philly's #1 ranked O line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while KC's gave up none.

You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

Before the 2022 season? That is a bit disingenuous because that is not the way the season played out. So really it was the #5 ranked O line that ended up winning the SB and not the #1 O line. Our O line finished the season ranked 7th. Not too far off from KC's. In fact, according to pff, 49ers O line was ranked 5th in PBLK a head of KC who was ranked 6th.

What really happened in the SB was Philly's D relied heavily on that pass rush to get to the QB quickly but were pretty much neutralized by the poor field conditions. Shhh. Don't tell Philly fans that. If we are not allowed to use a rare UCL tear as an excuse than they cannot use the field conditions as one neither.

Regular season doesn't matter if the goal is a Superbowl win.

But as we saw against, Dallas and eventually Philly's D, our OL was nowhere near that level of play in the playoffs.

Buuuuut, they shouldn't have been. They far exceeded expectations for year 1. And yes, there's a chance they can get there this year even with swapping McGlinchey for McKivitz.

Nah, KC and Philly played on the same field. And if the weather is the issue, that's more proof you shouldn't overly invest in a DL.

How the hell does a team make it into the playoffs if the regular season doesn't matter? Of course it matters. But if you want to get technical. Philly's O line was ranked #1 and KC's was ranked 4th in PBLK in the playoffs. The difference between the #1 and #4 was a 13.4 grading difference. KC's O line was actually closer in grading with the 49ers than it was with the eagles. Besides, it wasn't the O line that was at fault for Purdy's injury.

Well of course it matters to get in. Haha.

I mean when it comes to the playoffs, talent will have to show up and that's when it's exposed, so if you've got by with a Tom Compton playing solid RT in the regular season, even slightly better than MM, you know he's going to be exposed in the playoffs.

Agreed, that's unit PP, not the OL there, specifically. The concussion was though. The OL needed to play at an elite level if we were going to have a chance that game. No chance, unfortunately.

I'd focus more on the Dallas game where they got smoked and if it wasn't for the defense playing the game of a century and closing a lead out finally, it would have been another playoff loss where the OL played a big part in it.

49ers had to face the #2 (DAL) pass rush and the #1 (PHI) pass rush in order to make it into the SB. While PHI had to face the 20th (NYG) ranked pass rush and the 7th (SF) ranked pass rush to make it to the SB. Simply, PHI's O line had a much easier path to the SB than the 49ers.

Yup. That's the playoffs. That won't change this year either, most likely.

Do you like our matchup?

If both our pass rush and pass pro can move up into the top 5, I like our chances a lot. If either one of them doesn't improve we better hope we win the conference and draw the 20th and 7th ranked pass rushes in the league. 😅

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You thought the Chiefs OL was bad?

If that's the case, I hope ours suck ass this year! Haha

Their RT was bad, their LT was average at best. My point is you're presenting that the chiefs went all out and threw 5 probowlers out there. They did not.

My point is the reason the chiefs OL looks as it does is because of mahomes, not because the chiefs somehow acquired/developed 5-9 probowlers

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You thought the Chiefs OL was bad?

If that's the case, I hope ours suck ass this year! Haha

Their RT was bad, their LT was average at best. My point is you're presenting that the chiefs went all out and threw 5 probowlers out there. They did not.

My point is the reason the chiefs OL looks as it does is because of mahomes, not because the chiefs somehow acquired/developed 5-9 probowlers

Well, no, because we've seen that same QB really struggle without it. They are intimately tied together. Obviously he's a unicorn in that he can make up for a few plays here and there more than anyone in history but there's a tipping point for all great QB's there. Even him. You need both. Simple as that. That's your best bet in today's game.

Can we win it all by prioritizing a dominant run game and DL instead of QB + OL? Year 7, let's find out!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You know they were #1 and #2 by Brandon Thorn just to start the season and it was splitting hairs by the playoffs.

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2022-offensive-line-rankings/

I wouldn't complain with either. LOL

I may be jumping in on the convo, but on these ranks, I would wonder, what is the SF rank as is, and what would it be, with no Trent. I'm thinking no Trent, and we go from top handful to middle of the pack, at best.

You could say that about any top 10 O line. No O line has 5 pro bowlers. Its usually only 1 or 2 elite O lineman on a team and than the rest are just solid starters at best.

Kind of. Teams that prioritize the OL keep adding talent to it and keep building. Philly was the #1 or #2 last year and guess what their third pick was in the draft was. Obviously they were forced to prioritize the DL first too, thanks to us.

Would you say we've prioritized it like those two teams?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You thought the Chiefs OL was bad?

If that's the case, I hope ours suck ass this year! Haha

Their RT was bad, their LT was average at best. My point is you're presenting that the chiefs went all out and threw 5 probowlers out there. They did not.

My point is the reason the chiefs OL looks as it does is because of mahomes, not because the chiefs somehow acquired/developed 5-9 probowlers

Well, no, because we've seen that same QB really struggle without it. They are intimately tied together. Obviously he's a unicorn in that he can make up for a few plays here and there more than anyone in history but there's a tipping point for all great QB's there. Even him. You need both. Simple as that. That's your best bet in today's game.

Can we win it all by prioritizing a dominant run game and DL instead of QB + OL? Year 7, let's find out!

Pass rush and pass pro will get you deep into the playoffs but you need that QB to put you over the top.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
People have already broken down the prioritization to you and it doesn't align with what you have pushed