49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

oh, moving the goal posts..

how many teams are in these tiers ?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

oh, moving the goal posts..

how many teams are in these tiers ?

Supposedly this year tier 1 is PHI and DET…but then there are like 3-5 different points throughout the season that they must be evaluated on. But from what can gather if the team does/doesn't win the SB that's the only real barometer . It's all very confusing

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except PM never won with a medicore OL. He's always had tier 1 OL's except for his 1 loss. Irony? No. That's how football generally works...since the dawn of time.

PS: You need both.

Cincy was one play away from not needing both.

Burrows is Elite and Cincy had a good oline. I'm not understanding?

The only QB that can make a good O line great is Patrick mahomes.

As well NC is right you need both. Being back into the O line thread...We will win it all of we have a top 5 line this year. If we don't we won't. I feel better about McKivitz after preseason however we shall see how our O line performs against Pittsburgh and their D line with TJ Watt.

I'm a Niners fan so hope we do well.

Brock still would have to play tier 1 as well. And yes, there's always the outside chance that when this OL is reevaluated at mid season, we could have moved up into tier 1 (like they have our DLB ranked now).

Yes he would and looked good in preseason. It's the unknown on our O line, that's how far we can go. If they move up to a top 5 O line we will probably get number 6 baring injuries. Yes Rock it Brock....

It's exciting. We're so close!

I know I want it this year..Jones'n big time for this.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except PM never won with a medicore OL. He's always had tier 1 OL's except for his 1 loss. Irony? No. That's how football generally works...since the dawn of time.

PS: You need both.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

oh, moving the goal posts..

how many teams are in these tiers ?

Originally posted by Bullrush42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ CIN doesn't have a good OL. That's what makes Burrow so remarkable

True. That's also why he's never won one.

Credit to their FO. They did try though IIRC. But it certainly has not reached tier 1.

Yeah the line was really bad back during their Super Bowl run. It probably was the reason they didn't win. They went out and signed the top available FA at OT the last two years and are hoping it meshes this year.
Burrow is so good though. It's Mahomes then Burrow then everybody else for me. He is so lethal from the pocket.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

oh, moving the goal posts..

how many teams are in these tiers ?

2. Sometimes 3. For instance, only 2 are in the OL tier 1 this year. 3 on defense (including SF). Sometimes just 1.

Last year it was 2 OL: Eagles and Chiefs in tier 1. Chiefs got no lower than 3.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
whats this years, Hoov mentioned Det ?

Where are these tiers coming from?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except PM never won with a medicore OL. He's always had tier 1 OL's except for his 1 loss. Irony? No. That's how football generally works...since the dawn of time.

PS: You need both.

Cincy was one play away from not needing both.

Burrows is Elite and Cincy had a good oline. I'm not understanding?

The only QB that can make a good O line great is Patrick mahomes.

As well NC is right you need both. Being back into the O line thread...We will win it all of we have a top 5 line this year. If we don't we won't. I feel better about McKivitz after preseason however we shall see how our O line performs against Pittsburgh and their D line with TJ Watt.

I'm a Niners fan so hope we do well.

Brock still would have to play tier 1 as well. And yes, there's always the outside chance that when this OL is reevaluated at mid season, we could have moved up into tier 1 (like they have our DLB ranked now).

Yes he would and looked good in preseason. It's the unknown on our O line, that's how far we can go. If they move up to a top 5 O line we will probably get number 6 baring injuries. Yes Rock it Brock....

It's exciting. We're so close!

I know I want it this year..Jones'n big time for this.

Looooooooong overdue!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
never heard of tier 1 until today in this thread.. wth is that ? new name for #1 ranked OL like years past ?

It was introduced because PHI was #1 last year and didn't win

oh, moving the goal posts..

how many teams are in these tiers ?

2. Sometimes 3. For instance, only 2 are in the OL tier 1 this year. 3 on defense (including SF). Sometimes just 1.

Last year it was 2 OL: Eagles and Chiefs in tier 1. Chiefs got no lower than 3.

whats this years, Hoov mentioned Det ?

Where are these tiers coming from?

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except PM never won with a medicore OL. He's always had tier 1 OL's except for his 1 loss. Irony? No. That's how football generally works...since the dawn of time.

PS: You need both.

Cincy was one play away from not needing both.

Burrows is Elite and Cincy had a good oline. I'm not understanding?

The only QB that can make a good O line great is Patrick mahomes.

As well NC is right you need both. Being back into the O line thread...We will win it all of we have a top 5 line this year. If we don't we won't. I feel better about McKivitz after preseason however we shall see how our O line performs against Pittsburgh and their D line with TJ Watt.

I'm a Niners fan so hope we do well.

Brock still would have to play tier 1 as well. And yes, there's always the outside chance that when this OL is reevaluated at mid season, we could have moved up into tier 1 (like they have our DLB ranked now).

Yes he would and looked good in preseason. It's the unknown on our O line, that's how far we can go. If they move up to a top 5 O line we will probably get number 6 baring injuries. Yes Rock it Brock....

It's exciting. We're so close!

I know I want it this year..Jones'n big time for this.

Looooooooong overdue!

Like you, and others said, injuries can put a monkey wrench in any formula. But I like our chances this year. I thiink we only have 4-ish games on AstroTurf. Gap/Power to the left and zone run to the right, and you have the TE's give chip block help to McKivitz on pass pro - Brock should be able to stay upright a big part of the season with that kind combo.

Originally posted by NCommand:
This year to 'start.'

Tier 1:
Eagles and Lions for OL
Cowboys, 9ers and Steelers for DL

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2023-offensive-line-rankings/

https://establishtherun.com/thorn-2023-defensive-line-rankings/

All will be reevaluated mid season and again going into the playoffs.