49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Bosaboobs192:
He's a joke and so is this organization

ban me

whom is thy joke though.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I agree, but only to a certain extent. Maybe Watt is the only guy in the league that can make him look foolish, and I hope to hell that's true. Very little chance we face him in the Super Bowl. What I'm saying is this team is so loaded they only have 2 possible weaknesses. The secondary would be the other, but they looked decent today and can be masked by the pass rush. If McKivitz is truly as bad as he looked today, I'd rather not wait until Darnold is the starter to address it.

A better qb takes advantage of the secondary today.

No doubt McKivitz must improve. I just want to see how much it was facing the dpoy week 1. Got months to get better. It's also entirely possible that he will be like MM and we just have to try and maneuver around him.

I just watched the condensed version and it does look like our two weaknesses were still present: solid C play but the right side of the OL and unit PP (both Kittle & Woerner were smoked by a LB); and of course, the secondary is still a question mark as well but that obviously wasn't as glaring this game.

I don't think we should panic much about either ATM but something to monitor.

PS: ER2 certainly is a big arrow-up, health and starting fast was a big plus! That's huge esp. with Seattle losing.

Are there any viable RT / swing T available in FA or via trade? Seems like that's our one weakness.

And I don't think we immediately pull the trigger, but that seems to be the place we keep an eye out.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Are there any viable RT / swing T available in FA or via trade? Seems like that's our one weakness.

And I don't think we immediately pull the trigger, but that seems to be the place we keep an eye out.

Too little too late, IMHO. We would have needed to address that in the off season and give the player months to learn the intricate system here. We ride or die with McKivitzGlinchey.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh no doubt, the end results look amazing. But this is the OL thread. Any concerns going forward? Or is it manageable? Nothing that could be exploited going forward that could affect the end result?

Have to see if it's McKivitz or Watt. Next week will be a better barometer.

Well, unless Watt averages 3 sacks/game you have your answer. Judging him against inferior edge rushers will only give a false sense of security, since the team won't face inferior ERs in the playoffs.

You judge him over a body of work. Not a game. Dan Brunskill could stop Aaron Donald for a single game, but that didn't make him an All Pro guard. We'll know more in a few weeks.

I agree, but only to a certain extent. Maybe Watt is the only guy in the league that can make him look foolish, and I hope to hell that's true. Very little chance we face him in the Super Bowl. What I'm saying is this team is so loaded they only have 2 possible weaknesses. The secondary would be the other, but they looked decent today and can be masked by the pass rush. If McKivitz is truly as bad as he looked today, I'd rather not wait until Darnold is the starter to address it.

If McKivitz is as bad as he looked, they would've known this and had already addressed it. My guess is by seasons end, he'll be an average RT.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by lamontb:
They gonna have to trade for a RT

No one is trading us a quality RT lol. You can get quality at other spots, but not tackle in season. There aren't 64 starting caliber tackles in the league. Nobody is going to trade one, without there being some major issue.

Is rheir season over @ the halfway mark?

Are they simply trying to get compensation for a guy that they know they arent going to be able to resign the following year?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Tired of Kyle's moneyball b******t approach when it comes to the OL. You let McGlinchey walk and your only response is to promote a guy that is a human turnstile to starter.

Oof. Where have you been my whole WZ life? LOL

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by lamontb:
We just gonna pray on a quality RT somehow becoming available before the trade deadline.

They don't get traded.

Unfortunately your right we would have to get lucky on that one. Hope we do find one though.

We got lucky on an undrafted guy that showed massive potential at LT, potential RT but cut him to keep Zakejl

I know he's on the cardinals

on the Cards PS right, we can get him anytime then

Ilm Manning is on the Cardinals' 53.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by lamontb:
They gonna have to trade for a RT

No one is trading us a quality RT lol. You can get quality at other spots, but not tackle in season. There aren't 64 starting caliber tackles in the league. Nobody is going to trade one, without there being some major issue.

Is rheir season over @ the halfway mark?

Are they simply trying to get compensation for a guy that they know they arent going to be able to resign the following year?

That happens, but its for situations I've already mentioned before and you're relying on luck for that.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by lamontb:
They gonna have to trade for a RT

No one is trading us a quality RT lol. You can get quality at other spots, but not tackle in season. There aren't 64 starting caliber tackles in the league. Nobody is going to trade one, without there being some major issue.

Is rheir season over @ the halfway mark?

Are they simply trying to get compensation for a guy that they know they arent going to be able to resign the following year?

How is the Giants' RT? They might be ready to hold a fire sale very soon.

This is why i wanted to keep Mitch lol he actually is a top 32 OT in the NFL and people failed to see that that's why he got paid like one.

But the fact is out OL did great This is a top 3 DL in the NFL. For the first 1.5-2 Q he kept a clean pocket and we didn't allow a pressure while going up 17-0. The fact is Watt is going to get his and he will get his sacks its just a fact

Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh no doubt, the end results look amazing. But this is the OL thread. Any concerns going forward? Or is it manageable? Nothing that could be exploited going forward that could affect the end result?

There are always concerns. Not sure what team wouldn't have them.

There are positive signs as well tho. Ying and Yang.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Are there any viable RT / swing T available in FA or via trade? Seems like that's our one weakness.

And I don't think we immediately pull the trigger, but that seems to be the place we keep an eye out.

Too little too late, IMHO. We would have needed to address that in the off season and give the player months to learn the intricate system here. We ride or die with McKivitzGlinchey.

Worst case scenario, we have Alfredo Gutierez.

McKivitz didn't stink up the joint the way McGlinchy did sometimes. I still remember that whiff against the raiders where McGlinchy was bench pressed into the air by the Raider defensive end. 49ers are running - I think - predominantly to the left behind Trent and Banks, and are booting right to pass. At least that's how I'm feeling how this offense operated against the Steelers. 49ers had good success running and passing this last Sunday against (I think) what is going to be a very good Steeler team this year.

McKivitz's name was called only when the game was already out of hand for the Raiders, and I feel that McKivitz mentally relaxed a bit in the second half, rather than got physically beat.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Worst case scenario, we have Alfredo Gutierez.

McKivitz didn't stink up the joint the way McGlinchy did sometimes. I still remember that whiff against the raiders where McGlinchy was bench pressed into the air by the Raider defensive end. 49ers are running - I think - predominantly to the left behind Trent and Banks, and are booting right to pass. At least that's how I'm feeling how this offense operated against the Steelers. 49ers had good success running and passing this last Sunday against (I think) what is going to be a very good Steeler team this year.

McKivitz's name was called only when the game was already out of hand for the Raiders, and I feel that McKivitz mentally relaxed a bit in the second half, rather than got physically beat.

id have to go back and look but I didn't feel the steelers with in the backfield all game I don't think its as bad as it looks I would be interested to see how many QB pressures we allowed in genbeneral. This could be as simple as he is a average RT who played against a top 3 player on the DL

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by lamontb:
We just gonna pray on a quality RT somehow becoming available before the trade deadline.

They don't get traded.

Unfortunately your right we would have to get lucky on that one. Hope we do find one though.

We got lucky on an undrafted guy that showed massive potential at LT, potential RT but cut him to keep Zakejl

I know he's on the cardinals

on the Cards PS right, we can get him anytime then

Ilm Manning is on the Cardinals' 53.

Yeah, Foerster liked Zakelj, Moore, and Pryor vs Manning. Manning is a raw talent, he'll take at least a year - most likely two or three - to become a viable starter for the 49er with the talent ahead of him. By next year, 49ers will be drafting at OT high (I hope) next year. Alfredo Gutierez and Leroy Watson round out the practice squad. I thought Alfredo did ok in preseason. I don't remember his name being called a lot.