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Originally posted by lamontb:
WTF. Did I watch a different game. Outside of Watt's 3 sacks I don't recall a ton of pressures. Niners d line clearly looked better to me.

Isn't that what me and 9ers4eva was just saying?
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Sep 11, 2023 at 11:02 AM ]
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps
Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

I'm with you, NC. I remember during the 90's when Dallas was owning Young, Eddie went out and got players SPECIFICALLY to beat Dallas. Bryant Young to stop Emmitt Smith and Deion to stop Irvin. I guarantee you after beating Dallas the last 2 years, Jerry Jones is building that team specifically to beat the Niners, and what is the one weakness the team has? The right side of the O line. Kyle and Lynch better recognize that at some point, or they will lose to the most hated team in the league.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

I'm with you, NC. I remember during the 90's when Dallas was owning Young, Eddie went out and got players SPECIFICALLY to beat Dallas. Bryant Young to stop Emmitt Smith and Deion to stop Irvin. I guarantee you after beating Dallas the last 2 years, Jerry Jones is building that team specifically to beat the Niners, and what is the one weakness the team has? The right side of the O line. Kyle and Lynch better recognize that at some point, or they will lose to the most hated team in the league.

God, don't remind me! It still makes me cringe. Haha.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

I'm with you, NC. I remember during the 90's when Dallas was owning Young, Eddie went out and got players SPECIFICALLY to beat Dallas. Bryant Young to stop Emmitt Smith and Deion to stop Irvin. I guarantee you after beating Dallas the last 2 years, Jerry Jones is building that team specifically to beat the Niners, and what is the one weakness the team has? The right side of the O line. Kyle and Lynch better recognize that at some point, or they will lose to the most hated team in the league.

God, don't remind me! It still makes me cringe. Haha.

In all fairness though, PFF also had Warner as the lowest graded defender yesterday, so how they come up with numbers is a bit head scratching to me.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

I'm with you, NC. I remember during the 90's when Dallas was owning Young, Eddie went out and got players SPECIFICALLY to beat Dallas. Bryant Young to stop Emmitt Smith and Deion to stop Irvin. I guarantee you after beating Dallas the last 2 years, Jerry Jones is building that team specifically to beat the Niners, and what is the one weakness the team has? The right side of the O line. Kyle and Lynch better recognize that at some point, or they will lose to the most hated team in the league.

God, don't remind me! It still makes me cringe. Haha.

In all fairness though, PFF also had Warner as the lowest graded defender yesterday, so how they come up with numbers is a bit head scratching to me.

For real.
QB's under the most pressure this week.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
QB's under the most pressure this week.


Wasn't Miami missing their best tackle? How is it they are able to find good O linemen if there's such a shortage leaguewide?
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
QB's under the most pressure this week.


Wasn't Miami missing their best tackle? How is it they are able to find good O linemen if there's such a shortage leaguewide?

How do you know it wasn't the replacement tackle that gave up that 30.4% pressure rate?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you know it wasn't the replacement tackle that gave up that 30.4% pressure rate?

It may have been, which makes me wonder why their backup is better than the Niners starter. Keep in mind, they faced Bosa/Mack.
[ Edited by SLCNiner on Sep 11, 2023 at 12:02 PM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you know it wasn't the replacement tackle that gave up that 30.4% pressure rate?

It may have been, which makes me wonder why their backup is better than the Niners starter.

Not sure who you are referring to but Austin Jackson gave up 4 pressures and Kendall Lamm gave up 5. Colton McKivitz also gave up 5. So I am not sure how they were better than McKivitz.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you know it wasn't the replacement tackle that gave up that 30.4% pressure rate?

It may have been, which makes me wonder why their backup is better than the Niners starter.

Not sure who you are referring to but Austin Jackson gave up 4 pressures and Kendall Lamm gave up 5. Colton McKivitz also gave up 5. So I am not sure how they were better than McKivitz.

I'm basing this solely off of the pressure rates in that chart posted. 30% pressure rate is better than 44%. That tells me Miami's O line handled business better than San Francisco's, despite the fact they didn't even have their best tackle. Not sure what argument you're looking for here, and I'm not here to argue.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you know it wasn't the replacement tackle that gave up that 30.4% pressure rate?

It may have been, which makes me wonder why their backup is better than the Niners starter.

Not sure who you are referring to but Austin Jackson gave up 4 pressures and Kendall Lamm gave up 5. Colton McKivitz also gave up 5. So I am not sure how they were better than McKivitz.

I'm basing this solely off of the pressure rates in that chart posted. 30% pressure rate is better than 44%. That tells me Miami's O line handled business better than San Francisco's, despite the fact they didn't even have their best tackle. Not sure what argument you're looking for here, and I'm not here to argue.

I thought your argument was that MIA's backup tackle played better than McKivitz. I obviously misunderstood.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

What's surprising about this? Burford had 3 penalties by himself and mckivitz gave up 3 sacks.

Both will get benched if they do it again.

You can't have a guy single handedly getting 3 penalties a game. Lenoir is probably on thin ice for his 2 also.

Honestly also pretty sure we just left watt uncovered and unclipped on a couple plays at the end of the game. Save mckivitz the embarrassment of pushing watt into purdy. Better to just let him run free it seems.
[ Edited by BoldRedandGold on Sep 11, 2023 at 12:43 PM ]
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
PFF is always odd esp. for OL grades but here you go:

  • Spencer Burford, RG, 28.6, 68 snaps
  • Colton McKivitz, RT, 45.0, 68 snaps

I'm with you, NC. I remember during the 90's when Dallas was owning Young, Eddie went out and got players SPECIFICALLY to beat Dallas. Bryant Young to stop Emmitt Smith and Deion to stop Irvin. I guarantee you after beating Dallas the last 2 years, Jerry Jones is building that team specifically to beat the Niners, and what is the one weakness the team has? The right side of the O line. Kyle and Lynch better recognize that at some point, or they will lose to the most hated team in the league.

God, don't remind me! It still makes me cringe. Haha.

In all fairness though, PFF also had Warner as the lowest graded defender yesterday, so how they come up with numbers is a bit head scratching to me.

GTFO are you serious? That was one of his best games. Dude was flying around like a mad man.
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