49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Overall I will say they played exceptionally well under the circumstances. If the MIA, TB & PIT games haven't deterred defenses from blitzing Brock, this game certainly should.

Well I don't know about that….I feel like there were a handful of balls that could have been picked off early. SF got lucky that none of those became TOs.

He settled down and played much better as the game went on.

Overall I think that is something that Brock can become very good at, beating the blitz. All about pre-snap awareness and post-snap anticipation/quick processing…things he's shown he's damn good at with less than a years worth of passing attempts.

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Brock is 73/119 for 846 yards 6 TD's, 1 INT with a 96.6 passer rating against the blitz in his career.

And we all watched the game last night. It was shaky in the beginning. No reason to pretend it wasn't.

Stats don't tell the whole story or we'd all be raving about Lance's amazing QB rating vs LV.

He improved as the game went on and like I said, I think it's something he will be elite at beating the more he plays.

Dude, we get it. You want every reason you can find to say "I told you so" about Brock Purdy. Did he have a couple of contested passes early on in the game? Sure. But they weren't all on him. Deny the facts all you want but the results are the results when it comes to how good he has been overall vs the blitz. Now give me 5 active QB's who have been better against the blitz in their first 8 career starts. Otherwise, backdown for once in your life.

the early struggles werent really on Purdy.

We came out super aggressive but the giants came out with eh perfect defensive gameplan to counter that. That's why the first few drives weren't amazing from a passing perspective we made adjustments and then we moved the ball pretty easily

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The O line got blitzed 85% of their pass snaps. That doesn't just affect the QB, it also affects the O line. Inspite of the adversity, Brock showed us what it means to elevate a tier 2-3 O line.

He played stellar under the pressure. If he could do that through the playoffs and Superbowl, you'll finally have your first example of a QB transcending a challenged OL FTW. We know PM couldn't do it.

lol still selling

12 reg season games and two playoff games is not an example enough?

lol

I think the OL played well. The only issue I saw was Trent Williams getting frustrated. You don't have the ball on offense for 2/3 of the game without good OL play. Rushing to the right side is going to be an ongoing issue to watch though.

The 49er pass protection was horrendous. When Tom Brady went back to pass, he could have went home, pick up his wife, took her to Paris to have dinner and sex, and still have plenty of time to fly back and complete the pass.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
The 49er pass protection was horrendous. When Tom Brady went back to pass, he could have went home, pick up his wife, took her to Paris to have dinner and sex, and still have plenty of time to fly back and complete the pass.

DL weren't allowed to touch brady also

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Overall I will say they played exceptionally well under the circumstances. If the MIA, TB & PIT games haven't deterred defenses from blitzing Brock, this game certainly should.

Well I don't know about that….I feel like there were a handful of balls that could have been picked off early. SF got lucky that none of those became TOs.

He settled down and played much better as the game went on.

Overall I think that is something that Brock can become very good at, beating the blitz. All about pre-snap awareness and post-snap anticipation/quick processing…things he's shown he's damn good at with less than a years worth of passing attempts.

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Brock is 73/119 for 846 yards 6 TD's, 1 INT with a 96.6 passer rating against the blitz in his career.

And we all watched the game last night. It was shaky in the beginning. No reason to pretend it wasn't.

Stats don't tell the whole story or we'd all be raving about Lance's amazing QB rating vs LV.

He improved as the game went on and like I said, I think it's something he will be elite at beating the more he plays.

Dude, we get it. You want every reason you can find to say "I told you so" about Brock Purdy. Did he have a couple of contested passes early on in the game? Sure. But they weren't all on him. Deny the facts all you want but the results are the results when it comes to how good he has been overall vs the blitz. Now give me 5 active QB's who have been better against the blitz in their first 8 career starts. Otherwise, backdown for once in your life.

Omg quit being emotional/defensive about it. I want whomever is the guy to be the guy. If you can't watch/discuss it objectively then that's a you problem. Stop trying to make it about me.

Here's one of the main PFF analysis talking about Brock on the opening drive where he didn't look good at all (like I said).

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I also said as the game went on he played better. There's a REASON they were blitzing more than anyone has in a long time.

The line has been a concern all offseason. I remember people wanting Glinch out and I told my co-workers be careful for what you wish for because the alternative may not be good.

Originally posted by ritz126:
the early struggles werent really on Purdy.

We came out super aggressive but the giants came out with eh perfect defensive gameplan to counter that. That's why the first few drives weren't amazing from a passing perspective we made adjustments and then we moved the ball pretty easily

Anyone with two sets of eyes, could see that. Stats are great and all BUT pretending that's all that matters to prove a point is flawed (hence my Lance comment). This is football not algebra.

some folks can't watch the team they love objectively or negate actual film with stats. We all do it.

And like you said, they adjusted and he got better…which is what you want.

I mean he didn't have a good until maybe towards the end of it IIRC. We can call it what it is I believe.

The 2nd half was improved and there were 2-3 throws (1 to each pylon) were just fantastic as far as ball placement is concerned.

So you add the win in, and it's a positive grade overall,...but we dont need to pretend like he didnt start out very cold.

Originally posted by random49er:
I mean he didn't have a good until maybe towards the end of it IIRC. We can call it what it is I believe.

The 2nd half was improved and there were 2-3 throws (1 to each pylon) were just fantastic as far as ball placement is concerned.

So you add the win in, and it's a positive grade overall,...but we dont need to pretend like he didnt start out very cold.

Well it's a rough dichotomy now because you either have to say the O line was terrible and Brock overcame it (something that isn't possible) or the O line wasn't terrible. Them corners get tight when you get boxed in.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Overall I will say they played exceptionally well under the circumstances. If the MIA, TB & PIT games haven't deterred defenses from blitzing Brock, this game certainly should.

Well I don't know about that….I feel like there were a handful of balls that could have been picked off early. SF got lucky that none of those became TOs.

He settled down and played much better as the game went on.

Overall I think that is something that Brock can become very good at, beating the blitz. All about pre-snap awareness and post-snap anticipation/quick processing…things he's shown he's damn good at with less than a years worth of passing attempts.

Brock is 73/119 for 846 yards 6 TD's, 1 INT with a 96.6 passer rating against the blitz in his career.

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And we all watched the game last night. It was shaky in the beginning. No reason to pretend it wasn't.

Stats don't tell the whole story or we'd all be raving about Lance's amazing QB rating vs LV.

He improved as the game went on and like I said, I think it's something he will be elite at beating the more he plays.

Dude, we get it. You want every reason you can find to say "I told you so" about Brock Purdy. Did he have a couple of contested passes early on in the game? Sure. But they weren't all on him. Deny the facts all you want but the results are the results when it comes to how good he has been overall vs the blitz. Now give me 5 active QB's who have been better against the blitz in their first 8 career starts. Otherwise, backdown for once in your life.

Omg quit being emotional/defensive about it. I want whomever is the guy to be the guy. If you can't watch/discuss it objectively then that's a you problem. Stop trying to make it about me.

Here's one of the main PFF analysis talking about Brock on the opening drive where he didn't look good at all (like I said).

I wonder how much Purdy's ugly turnover-worthy plays on the first drive caused the sky-high blitz rate (85%!!!) for the rest of the game.

Giants blitzed all 9 dropbacks on that opening drive. 2 TWPs and a sack is a pretty good return.

But Purdy pulled it together after that.

— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) September 22, 2023

I also said as the game went on he played better. There's a REASON they were blitzing more than anyone has in a long time.

and what does this have to do with anything ?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Spencer Burford and Jake Brendel had poor performances. Burford giving up 4 pressures with 1 sack. Brendel giving up 3 pressures with 2 hits. McKivitz actually played well it looks like.

Did Ncommand hack your account?!

Haha.

With Brendel, they brought a ton of A gap blitzes so I wonder how fair these grades are esp. given PP is his strength. In fact, I'm SUPER skeptical of all of these grades given the 85% blitz rate. TW alone had 3 penalties and penalties usually count against PFF grades, IIRC. McKivitz also had a big penalty (off set on the PF call on CMC?). These things should count against a player, IMHO.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Spencer Burford and Jake Brendel had poor performances. Burford giving up 4 pressures with 1 sack. Brendel giving up 3 pressures with 2 hits. McKivitz actually played well it looks like.

Did Ncommand hack your account?!

Haha.

With Brendel, they brought a ton of A gap blitzes so I wonder how fair these grades are esp. given PP is his strength. In fact, I'm SUPER skeptical of all of these grades given the 85% blitz rate. TW alone had 3 penalties and penalties usually count against PFF grades, IIRC. McKivitz also had a big penalty (off set on the PF call on CMC?). These things should count against a player, IMHO.

Did you see his snaps? There were multiple he threw at brocks shins or way off to the right that he had to "field" . I am assuming pff is smart enough to factor in the snap quality as well as the protection for centers.

He got better in the second half but the first half was bad. I am assuming that played a big factor with purdy struggling early as well.

It's one thing to know burford and mckivitz are going to instantly allow pressure.

It's another thing to have to fully track the snap into your hands like catching a ball because the center is throwing it wherever he feels like. Keeping your eyes on the snap the entire time the. Looking up for the rush after fielding the snap, imo is probably a lot harder than just tracking the rush. It loses purdy time.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Overall I will say they played exceptionally well under the circumstances. If the MIA, TB & PIT games haven't deterred defenses from blitzing Brock, this game certainly should.

Well I don't know about that….I feel like there were a handful of balls that could have been picked off early. SF got lucky that none of those became TOs.

He settled down and played much better as the game went on.

Overall I think that is something that Brock can become very good at, beating the blitz. All about pre-snap awareness and post-snap anticipation/quick processing…things he's shown he's damn good at with less than a years worth of passing attempts.

Brock is 73/119 for 846 yards 6 TD's, 1 INT with a 96.6 passer rating against the blitz in his career.

And we all watched the game last night. It was shaky in the beginning. No reason to pretend it wasn't.

Stats don't tell the whole story or we'd all be raving about Lance's amazing QB rating vs LV.

He improved as the game went on and like I said, I think it's something he will be elite at beating the more he plays.

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Dude, we get it. You want every reason you can find to say "I told you so" about Brock Purdy. Did he have a couple of contested passes early on in the game? Sure. But they weren't all on him. Deny the facts all you want but the results are the results when it comes to how good he has been overall vs the blitz. Now give me 5 active QB's who have been better against the blitz in their first 8 career starts. Otherwise, backdown for once in your life.

Omg quit being emotional/defensive about it. I want whomever is the guy to be the guy. If you can't watch/discuss it objectively then that's a you problem. Stop trying to make it about me.

Here's one of the main PFF analysis talking about Brock on the opening drive where he didn't look good at all (like I said).

I wonder how much Purdy's ugly turnover-worthy plays on the first drive caused the sky-high blitz rate (85%!!!) for the rest of the game.

Giants blitzed all 9 dropbacks on that opening drive. 2 TWPs and a sack is a pretty good return.

But Purdy pulled it together after that.

— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) September 22, 2023

I also said as the game went on he played better. There's a REASON they were blitzing more than anyone has in a long time.

and what does this have to do with anything ?

If you don't want to read the back and forth, just say that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
He played stellar under the pressure. If he could do that through the playoffs and Superbowl, you'll finally have your first example of a QB transcending a challenged OL FTW. We know PM couldn't do it.

9ers O line was still far better than the Chiefs O line in that SB.

Show me the comparative starters and corresponding PFF grades.