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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I read that we're being blitz more than any other team atm, also giving up the most pressure.

Brock is the 3rd highest blitzed QB in the league this season and has faced the 8th highest pressure rate.

I see..... this is what I was reading about or talking about though.... wasn't sure if it was accurate.

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Another prospect for next year.
Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
Height: 6-7. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2024): 1-2.
9/16/23: Alt has extended his streak and is playing while while taking on a lot of easy opponents so far.
9/1/23: Alt broke into the starting lineup at left tackle as a freshman and has started 21 straight contests on the blind side. Alt started out his career playing some tight end for the Notre Dame before settling in at left tackle. He has good size and length to block on the edge. Handling speed rushers and playing with good leverage will be points of emphasis for Alt as a senior.
I like the fact that he's played tight end, and usually offensive line guys from Notre Dame are pretty good already even as rookies. He's played tight end, which seems to be the kind of athleticism that Kyle likes in his offensive linemen.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I read that we're being blitz more than any other team atm, also giving up the most pressure.

Brock is the 3rd highest blitzed QB in the league this season and has faced the 8th highest pressure rate.

I see..... this is what I was reading about or talking about though.... wasn't sure if it was accurate.

https://gyazo.com/815d992842746828cda443e4febbd616

Wonder where Nick Wagoner got his info from?

Blitz %

Hurts- 56.9%
Minshew- 56.6%
Purdy- 55.4%

Pressure %

Z. Wilson - 51.0%
Fields- 47.4%
Young- 46.9%
D. Jones- 46.7%
Pickett- 46.5%
Dalton- 43.8%
R. Wilson- 40.7%
Purdy- 40.6%

As far as sacks. Purdy is the 11th best QB in the league in terms of avoiding sacks when pressured. Only 14.6% of the pressures Brock faces end up in a sack.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Sep 27, 2023 at 3:20 AM ]
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Scouting report of Matt Pryor:
Overview: Pryor is great big, long-armed blocker who falls in the category of prospect rather than project. His size and length traits along with his ability to play guard or tackle will offer immediate appeal as a potential third-day selection. He's better suited as a drive blocker who is allowed to work inside a smaller radius, but he's not a bad athlete in general. Pryor has dropped about twenty pounds since the end of the year which could help his case for staying at right tackle, but he's more than capable of playing guard if needed.

Sources Tell Us: "Talented but he's got the reputation for being a little bit lazy. If you knew he would keep his weight down and take the preparation seriously, I think you would have a pretty good player. You just don't know if he has that kind of football character." - NFC regional scout

Draft Projection: Round 5-6

Long arms are definitely a thing for Foerster. Matt is also 337lbs, unusually big for Kyle's OLinemen, and 6'7" definitely can deal with edge rushers with those long arms. I think he's had injury problems in the past that hampered his play time and development. Can play both tackle and Guard. Good backup. I hope he doesn't have to step in this year though.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You forgot to mention that these tiers change and the teams change within these tiers

Yah like the Chiefs morphed to tier 5 in playoffs.

And ours remained a "Tier 5" through the playoffs.

End results? Exactly the same.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You forgot to mention that these tiers change and the teams change within these tiers

Of course. It's rare to have two OL's remain in tier 1 all year like Philly/KC did last year...injuries happen, regression, other reasons, etc. Hence why they are weekly being analyzed and retiered at the mid point and for the playoffs. This isn't a hard concept to grasp is it?
Originally posted by NCommand:
And ours remained a "Tier 5" through the playoffs.

End results? Exactly the same.

Nope. Elite QB won them the SB. While our guy did what he did Sunday Night.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Sep 27, 2023 at 7:48 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Of course. It's rare to have two OL's remain in tier 1 all year like Philly/KC did last year...injuries happen, regression, other reasons, etc. Hence why they are weekly being analyzed and retiered at the mid point and for the playoffs. This isn't a hard concept to grasp is it?

Yet when the 9ers are graded well by other outlets you stay on the wait till the playoffs and see how they do train. Yet somehow that standard isn't applied to other teams. For them it's just point to some regular season ranking over and over.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Wonder where Nick Wagoner got his info from?

Blitz %

Hurts- 56.9%
Minshew- 56.6%
Purdy- 55.4%

Pressure %

Z. Wilson - 51.0%
Fields- 47.4%
Young- 46.9%
D. Jones- 46.7%
Pickett- 46.5%
Dalton- 43.8%
R. Wilson- 40.7%
Purdy- 40.6%

As far as sacks. Purdy is the 11th best QB in the league in terms of avoiding sacks when pressured. Only 14.6% of the pressures Brock faces end up in a sack.

Sounds like you are suggesting Brock play is improving the O lines numbers.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Wonder where Nick Wagoner got his info from?

Blitz %

Hurts- 56.9%
Minshew- 56.6%
Purdy- 55.4%

Pressure %

Z. Wilson - 51.0%
Fields- 47.4%
Young- 46.9%
D. Jones- 46.7%
Pickett- 46.5%
Dalton- 43.8%
R. Wilson- 40.7%
Purdy- 40.6%

As far as sacks. Purdy is the 11th best QB in the league in terms of avoiding sacks when pressured. Only 14.6% of the pressures Brock faces end up in a sack.

Sounds like you are suggesting Brock play is improving the O lines numbers.

Yes and no.

I have no idea how other offenses have dealt with the blitz. We seem to mostly put it on the QB with the amount of free rushers I have seen. Maybe other teams max protect in those situations but we don't seem to very often.

On the other hand, Brock has been able to either get the ball out just a tick before being hit or is stepping up and moving around in the pocket to buy himself more time. What I haven't seen him do much of, if at all, is escaping the pocket to avoid pressure like he was doing a lot of last season.

I don't think pass pro has been poor but it is difficult to judge by the rate at which he is being blitzed. Hopefully the blitz rate starts to drop now that he has proven over and over again that he can beat it and make defenses pay. I would love to see how the O line performs in pass pro when its only a 4 man rush.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And ours remained a "Tier 5" through the playoffs.

End results? Exactly the same.

Nope. Elite QB won them the SB. While our guy did what he did Sunday Night.

By losing 31-9? Huh. It IS an upside-down world. LOL
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Of course. It's rare to have two OL's remain in tier 1 all year like Philly/KC did last year...injuries happen, regression, other reasons, etc. Hence why they are weekly being analyzed and retiered at the mid point and for the playoffs. This isn't a hard concept to grasp is it?

Yet when the 9ers are graded well by other outlets you stay on the wait till the playoffs and see how they do train. Yet somehow that standard isn't applied to other teams. For them it's just point to some regular season ranking over and over.

9ers OL has never come close to sniffing tier 1. Believe me, I'd not only be the first to post it here, I'd be doing it with a
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Wonder where Nick Wagoner got his info from?

Blitz %

Hurts- 56.9%
Minshew- 56.6%
Purdy- 55.4%

Pressure %

Z. Wilson - 51.0%
Fields- 47.4%
Young- 46.9%
D. Jones- 46.7%
Pickett- 46.5%
Dalton- 43.8%
R. Wilson- 40.7%
Purdy- 40.6%

As far as sacks. Purdy is the 11th best QB in the league in terms of avoiding sacks when pressured. Only 14.6% of the pressures Brock faces end up in a sack.

Sounds like you are suggesting Brock play is improving the O lines numbers.

Yes and no.

I have no idea how other offenses have dealt with the blitz. We seem to mostly put it on the QB with the amount of free rushers I have seen. Maybe other teams max protect in those situations but we don't seem to very often.

On the other hand, Brock has been able to either get the ball out just a tick before being hit or is stepping up and moving around in the pocket to buy himself more time. What I haven't seen him do much of, if at all, is escaping the pocket to avoid pressure like he was doing a lot of last season.

I don't think pass pro has been poor but it is difficult to judge by the rate at which he is being blitzed. Hopefully the blitz rate starts to drop now that he has proven over and over again that he can beat it and make defenses pay. I would love to see how the O line performs in pass pro when its only a 4 man rush.

This is a really nice objective post. Kudos.
Originally posted by NCommand:
By losing 31-9? Huh. It IS an upside-down world. LOL

It's an upside down world if someone were to say they were elite in the playoffs last year. More fun to pretend to push the narrative.

But since Mahomes didn't want to crap on his teammates it mustve been great.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
By losing 31-9? Huh. It IS an upside-down world. LOL

It's an upside down world if someone were to say they were elite in the playoffs last year. More fun to pretend to push the narrative.

But since Mahomes didn't want to crap on his teammates it mustve been great.

Yeah, the least sacked QB was just throwing his OL a bone immediately after the win. LOL

And yes, his mobility helped in that, no doubt.

But we're talking about the one he LOST and why. Same concept we went through...although the rest of our team also tanked as well in the 4Q at the same time.
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