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Oct 7, 2023 at 5:51 PM
- YACBros85
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PFF grades are useless. However, you cannot find better O line stats anywhere else.
Oct 7, 2023 at 5:54 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
PFF grades are useless. However, you cannot find better O line stats anywhere else.
Might be able to find them at Brandon Thorns site. Sadly we will never know.
Oct 7, 2023 at 5:56 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
Oct 7, 2023 at 5:59 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
PFF grades are useless. However, you cannot find better O line stats anywhere else.
They are kind of like a sundial - good general direction but no details.
Oct 7, 2023 at 6:02 PM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
I laid his stats out in comparison to last season in his thread if you all want to check them out.
Oct 7, 2023 at 6:05 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
I am seriously curious how two grading services can be SO far apart.
I've watched him a fair bit and he just does not appear as solid as he was last year. That's my eye test. Tomorrow will be a good test.
Oct 7, 2023 at 6:40 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by dj43:
I am seriously curious how two grading services can be SO far apart.
I've watched him a fair bit and he just does not appear as solid as he was last year. That's my eye test. Tomorrow will be a good test.
Seen a lot of strong run blocking and few pressures over there. Not sure what more he can do. Certainly not gonna buy there are 50 guys playing better.
Burford is a different story.
Oct 7, 2023 at 7:24 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NCommand:
As you should. He went from the weakest link to our 3rd ranking worry (if that) behind Burford and Brendel.
Brendel is a good one
He is but he's had some struggles to start the year for sure especially in his strength area (pass protection).
After the first 1/4 of the season last year, Brendel was ranked in the mid-20s of Centers. As the season went along, he moved up to #17.
Right now, he is #28, with an overall grade slightly below last season. His PB rating is 41, which is awful. Definite improvement is needed there.
Earlier I was advocating for two tackles within the first 3 rounds but I've switched to getting two IOL after taking a tackle first. We can get some really elite players, especially at center if its prioritized.
Oct 8, 2023 at 3:12 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
I am seriously curious how two grading services can be SO far apart.
I've watched him a fair bit and he just does not appear as solid as he was last year. That's my eye test. Tomorrow will be a good test.
The irony here is its the same grading system...PFF.
Oct 8, 2023 at 5:20 AM
- random49er
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Oct 8, 2023 at 5:30 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
Well its resulting in Wins. That the statistic I like the most.
Oct 8, 2023 at 5:48 AM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
Yup. This is what the metrics say about Banks' improvement.
Pressure responsibility
2022- 38.1%
2023- 9.1%
Pressure rate & sacks
2022- 4.8%, 1 sack
2023- 2.3%, 0 sacks
Rushing direction LG
2022- 11 attempts, 4.6 YPC, 0 TD's, 1 FD
2023- 11 attempts, 8.5 YPC, 1 TD, 4 FD's.
Penalties
2022- 5
2023- 0
Oct 8, 2023 at 6:13 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
Yup. This is what the metrics say about Banks' improvement.
Pressure responsibility
2022- 38.1%
2023- 9.1%
Pressure rate & sacks
2022- 4.8%, 1 sack
2023- 2.3%, 0 sacks
Rushing direction LG
2022- 11 attempts, 4.6 YPC, 0 TD's, 1 FD
2023- 11 attempts, 8.5 YPC, 1 TD, 4 FD's.
Penalties
2022- 5
2023- 0
I think he's improved a lot too. That left side is legit. That said, it's odd he's ranked so low compared to his peers by PFF at the same time.
Like I always say, esp. with regards to the OL, the genius in PFF is there is a stat for everyone's narrative.
It's better to rely on the SME's.
Oct 8, 2023 at 9:15 AM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I think he's improved a lot too. That left side is legit. That said, it's odd he's ranked so low compared to his peers by PFF at the same time.
Like I always say, esp. with regards to the OL, the genius in PFF is there is a stat for everyone's narrative.
It's better to rely on the SME's.
Or watch for yourself and make up your own mind.
Oct 8, 2023 at 9:31 AM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Banks is 4th best LG at pressure rate and the 9ers are running for a boatload off LG but he's 56th of 63 guards.
Yup. This is what the metrics say about Banks' improvement.
Pressure responsibility
2022- 38.1%
2023- 9.1%
Pressure rate & sacks
2022- 4.8%, 1 sack
2023- 2.3%, 0 sacks
Rushing direction LG
2022- 11 attempts, 4.6 YPC, 0 TD's, 1 FD
2023- 11 attempts, 8.5 YPC, 1 TD, 4 FD's.
Penalties
2022- 5
2023- 0
I think he's improved a lot too. That left side is legit. That said, it's odd he's ranked so low compared to his peers by PFF at the same time.
Like I always say, esp. with regards to the OL, the genius in PFF is there is a stat for everyone's narrative.
It's better to rely on the SME's.
You posted another site in the offseason that rates OLine which made more sense. I stopped paying too much attention to PFF after Warner had an amazing game and was rated at 40%. I think it was following the steelers game, can't remember.