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Originally posted by NCommand:
Goff is starting to agree behind that tier 1 OL.

Drafted #1 Overall....he should've been doing these things already.

I mean let's not act like he was some "last pick of the draft" bum or anything....
[ Edited by random49er on Oct 9, 2023 at 11:42 AM ]
Originally posted by Giedi:
Jimmy was a trade. Teams don't trade franchise QBs like Purdy, Brady, or Montana while they are at their peak. One reason Jimmy was let go is because he wasn't as good as Brady. Still, even Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl with a good OLine and defense. Point being, a good OLine makes things a lot easier for even tier 2 QBs to win games.

Ravens O line had a Special Tackle. Edwin Mulitalo Jeff Mitchell Mike Flynn and Harry Swayne weren't some amazing group. Sounds vaguely familiar.

No one has ever suggested you don't need a good O line. It's the suggestion that it MUST be among the 2 best in the league that is at issue.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Oct 9, 2023 at 12:58 PM ]
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Jimmy was a trade. Teams don't trade franchise QBs like Purdy, Brady, or Montana while they are at their peak. One reason Jimmy was let go is because he wasn't as good as Brady. Still, even Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl with a good OLine and defense. Point being, a good OLine makes things a lot easier for even tier 2 QBs to win games.

Ravens O line had a Special Tackle. Edwin Mulitalo Jeff Mitchell Mike Flynn and Harry Swayne weren't some amazing group. Sounds vaguely familiar.

No one has ever suggested you don't need a good O line. It's the suggestion that it MUST be among the 2 best in the league that is at issue.

They were pretty good in the run game though. That makes a difference if you have a 2nd or 3rd tier QB that can pass OK. As long as the QB doesn't hurt you with turnovers and you have a dominant ground attack - your OLine and your RB will win you some games despite having a Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles as your QB. Then you have that legendary 2000 Raven's defense that (I think) had +23 net turnovers and was ranked number 1 in the turnover ratio department, and you have a legit playoff team right there.

Point being, that you have to have a good OLine to win a lot of games. Nowadays, with the pass happy NFL, that translates to a good *pass blocking* offensive line team to win a lot of games. The run game is still important, but the pass blocking is key nowadays with the new CTE rules.
Only a shoulder strain for Banks, day-to-day, https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/172952-injury-updates-day-to-day-shoulder-strain/
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Only a shoulder strain for Banks, day-to-day, https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/172952-injury-updates-day-to-day-shoulder-strain/

Great news on Banks
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Only a shoulder strain for Banks, day-to-day, https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/172952-injury-updates-day-to-day-shoulder-strain/

Great news on Banks

yessir, how you doing this week, Mighty Pickem King?
Originally posted by Giedi:
They were pretty good in the run game though. That makes a difference if you have a 2nd or 3rd tier QB that can pass OK. As long as the QB doesn't hurt you with turnovers and you have a dominant ground attack - your OLine and your RB will win you some games despite having a Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles as your QB. Then you have that legendary 2000 Raven's defense that (I think) had +23 net turnovers and was ranked number 1 in the turnover ratio department, and you have a legit playoff team right there.

Point being, that you have to have a good OLine to win a lot of games. Nowadays, with the pass happy NFL, that translates to a good *pass blocking* offensive line team to win a lot of games. The run game is still important, but the pass blocking is key nowadays with the new CTE rules.

No one suggest you don't need a good o line. 9ers have had good o lines. They just weren't good enough to make up for tier 7 playoff qb play.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Only a shoulder strain for Banks, day-to-day, https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/172952-injury-updates-day-to-day-shoulder-strain/

Great news on Banks

yessir, how you doing this week, Mighty Pickem King?

Thanks faithful! You're the man!!
I'm going with Green Bay even though I have the Raiders most likely winning this one. Who do you like? I hate betting against Home dogs
Originally posted by elguapo:
Thanks faithful! You're the man!!
I'm going with Green Bay even though I have the Raiders most likely winning this one. Who do you like? I hate betting against Home dogs

I like Packers tonight, I think I have 11 pts this week, counting the x3 of course
Sounds like we caught a huge break with banks injury. That would be a massive loss. Hell I'd be fine sitting him if it means he will heal up better for rest of the season. He is critical to our success
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Giedi:
They were pretty good in the run game though. That makes a difference if you have a 2nd or 3rd tier QB that can pass OK. As long as the QB doesn't hurt you with turnovers and you have a dominant ground attack - your OLine and your RB will win you some games despite having a Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles as your QB. Then you have that legendary 2000 Raven's defense that (I think) had +23 net turnovers and was ranked number 1 in the turnover ratio department, and you have a legit playoff team right there.

Point being, that you have to have a good OLine to win a lot of games. Nowadays, with the pass happy NFL, that translates to a good *pass blocking* offensive line team to win a lot of games. The run game is still important, but the pass blocking is key nowadays with the new CTE rules.

No one suggest you don't need a good o line. 9ers have had good o lines. They just weren't good enough to make up for tier 7 playoff qb play.

Seriously. Look at all these studs!

Tomlinson, Garland, Person, Compton and big-game McGlinchey!

LOL.

They were "good" at run blocking though.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Sounds like we caught a huge break with banks injury. That would be a massive loss. Hell I'd be fine sitting him if it means he will heal up better for rest of the season. He is critical to our success

Huge bullet dodged!!!
Originally posted by elguapo:
Thanks faithful! You're the man!!
I'm going with Green Bay even though I have the Raiders most likely winning this one. Who do you like? I hate betting against Home dogs

I'm taking the 2.5 points. Like Musgrave, Jacobs and can't ignore Davante against his old team for player performances - bought Davante Adams and Jacobs down a little. Edit~oh you meant in pick 'em LOL. Pack
[ Edited by kansasninerfan on Oct 9, 2023 at 2:06 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Huge bullet dodged!!!

100% gotta be a little lucky to make a run too. That was a big one.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Seriously. Look at all these studs!

Tomlinson, Garland, Person, Compton and big-game McGlinchey!

LOL.

They were "good" at run blocking though.

Would've been plenty for Brock
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