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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's the same way you play Hassan Reddick. Mash him. Just like Michah Parsons. Run right at him and smash him into the ground. All day long. The legs get tired and they lose their will to play later in the game. Don't just let him tee off and pass rush like they did last year. Dude is a little guy for a DE. Both of them. But more so Reddick. He's 6'1" 230 lbs. Reddick that is. Bulldoze him all day long. Hope they learned something. That's how you handle Parsons and Reddick. Aggressively attack and maul them in the run game. Don't just let them run full speed around the corner pass rushing you.


Agree💯%. Brock got injured last year because Kyle started to panic and dial up the long bombs. Like you said, got to establish the ground game by road grading that Eagle DLine and staying balanced, and making sure Riddick's head is on a swivel looking for the cut blocks, trap blocks, and double teams.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly my point to date. Both ended exactly the same even with a tier 1 QB.

And isn't that the whole point?

In your head, one was a tier 7 so they lost 31-7. The other was a tier 3 and lost 31-20.

Thanks for proving my point.

And when a tier 1 QB wins with a tier 2-7 OL, we'll start including that going forward.

An absolutely abysmal point like usual.

One ruined their teams chances to win. The other gave their team a chance but the even worse play by other groups on the team torpedoed things.

There's no we here. It's just a you.

So what you're saying is the tier 1 HOFQB couldn't transcend the tier 2 to 6 OL. You keep proving my very points. Thanks!
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 11, 2023 at 5:52 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
0 zero sacks given up by the OL against the best defense in the NFL

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Absolutely!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Vikings have an OL that good and still are awful? Surprising.
OL doesn't transcend the QB, like NC says it does

Oh I've NEVER said that. You guys come up with the biggest twisted crap in here. LOL

But it sure helps the QB's play to their full potential.

BTW: It looks like Brandon Thorn was right about Philly and Detroit's tier 1 OL again. 9-1 combined record.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 11, 2023 at 5:37 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Vikings have an OL that good and still are awful? Surprising.
OL doesn't transcend the QB, like NC says it does

Cousins leads the league in TD passes. The Vikings are top 10 in total yards. Their issue is the same issue that they have had since Cousins signed with them. They have an average running game and no defense.
I think Dallas was top 3 in qb pressures prior to our game and now we play the Browns which are #2 in Qb pressures

If our OL holds up the narrative about our OL sucking needs to die
Originally posted by ritz126:
I think Dallas was top 3 in qb pressures prior to our game and now we play the Browns which are #2 in Qb pressures

If our OL holds up the narrative about our OL sucking needs to die

I know atleast one person who will never change their mind.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Vikings have an OL that good and still are awful? Surprising.
OL doesn't transcend the QB, like NC says it does

Oh I've NEVER said that. You guys come up with the biggest twisted crap in here. LOL

But it sure helps the QB's play to their full potential.

BTW: It looks like Brandon Thorn was right about Philly and Detroit's tier 1 OL again. 9-1 combined record.
OL transcends the QB is why you're in this backpedaling at light speed mess

and it looks like BT is incorrect, at 16-3 with the rest of the field
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.

There is no one set way to win a SB. That's the crux of the entire argument.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.

You think having an elite o line with an average QB and average defense is an easier way to win a SB?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Vikings have an OL that good and still are awful? Surprising.
OL doesn't transcend the QB, like NC says it does

Oh I've NEVER said that. You guys come up with the biggest twisted crap in here. LOL

But it sure helps the QB's play to their full potential.

BTW: It looks like Brandon Thorn was right about Philly and Detroit's tier 1 OL again. 9-1 combined record.
OL transcends the QB is why you're in this backpedaling at light speed mess

and it looks like BT is incorrect, at 16-3 with the rest of the field

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.

There is no one set way to win a SB. That's the crux of the entire argument.

Nobody is talking historically.

We're talking very recent history in today's (passing) game.

If you want to talk history, historic defenses won Championships with marginal QB play. With insane running games. With insane secondaries.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.

You think having an elite o line with an average QB and average defense is an easier way to win a SB?

Today? Not at all. 1 elite unit won't do anything. The best odds are tier 1 QB + OL.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
o-line matters...always has always will......

having said that.....the 94 team won it all with questionable line play. That was easily the worst line in the dynasty years....

You get enough talent on the offense and defense with the right QB you can overcome a marginal o-line....but that must be the hardest way to win a SuperBowl.

There is no one set way to win a SB. That's the crux of the entire argument.

What's your best formula?

Tier 1 QB + Secondary?
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 11, 2023 at 10:04 AM ]
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