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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Both of starting guards are questionable but I feel like at least one will play. I hope it's Banks so we can see how well Feliciano can do on the right side.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by bassmanr:It's up to Purdy to make the on field decisions and reads, not Kyle
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
You mean in the NFCCG... when it matters that we need to beat another higher ranked team. Let's see what happens....
Then I guess the only good coach right now is Andy Reid who took over a decade to win it all
Extreme view again... No Kyle is a good coach. It's when the offense stalls he needs to try different schemes to open up what he wants to do primarily.
We have the players and the coach we just need Kyle to adapt when things aren't working. You know in game adjustments.
I totally agree with this. And we have that talent to turn on a dime my opinion, based on what the defense is giving/taking away or the weaknesses a team has by unit on defense.
My perception of Kyle is he wants to control the game through time of position, positive plays that keep the chains moving, showing defenses looks to set up for other things later, whether it be in game or putting certain looks and running certain plays in situations on film.
It works great usually. But if a team is sold out to stop the run, I think we still should be able to move the chains with Kittle, Juice, and CMC as catchers. We can run so many fakes with Deebo and CMC. There isn't a defense out there in my opinion that can stop all these guys a full 60 minutes.
This is what I was trying to say...if a defense says we are going to take out McCaffrey and Deebo. Then switch to kittle and Ayuik. He does want to control the game but football is just organized Kaos. He needs to change philosophy when things he's trying are not working.
Against most teams he will be able to control the way he wants, but with Philly or another top level team he will have the change what he's doing and adapt to what the D gives us.
Kyle's only major flaw along with losing it with 10 mins to go. Hopefully he will change and we can finally get number 6. We have the team, all stars everywhere. Philly has not had a bad steak yet Hopefully it's coming soon.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Why don't you keep that same energy for the running game when we run more than pass (until we're behind)? Nobody is denying the QB's role when he does have his shots though. His role is still critical but within the context of our offense, it's way less than a pass-centric offense where the QB "is" the offense.
Or the pass rush where we added a gazillion resources to to not close out 10 point leads late in the 4Q?
Your two examples are QB-centric offenses so of course their teams go as they go. Stafford too back then.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
I saw Feliciano get dumped to the ground against Tampa Bay, so I'm not really into looking at a repeat of that kind of play against the Cawks.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:what are you even talking about, in no way did i ever mention to go off of PFF. I don't have access nor look at PFF to get results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:all rankings are bonkers, it's better to go off actual game play and results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:yeah lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:yes it's confusing, cause you are using PFF ?
Some are very confused by this. Ha
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-week-12-2023
Rankings over results. You got to love it.
I don't believe the 5 pressures. Hurts couldn't do anything because of the pressure and most of his sacks were deemed runs tackle for losses lol
Right? Those PFF rankings are bonkers!
So you buy PFF's end result data but not their weekly rankings...which are based off their end results data?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Why don't you keep that same energy for the running game when we run more than pass (until we're behind)? Nobody is denying the QB's role when he does have his shots though. His role is still critical but within the context of our offense, it's way less than a pass-centric offense where the QB "is" the offense.
Or the pass rush where we added a gazillion resources to to not close out 10 point leads late in the 4Q?
Your two examples are QB-centric offenses so of course their teams go as they go. Stafford too back then.
The run game can be affected by the success of fhe pass game as evidenced by this week. But when you have 3.6 seconds to throw and guys are open you should be able to succeed independent of the run game. I'm pretty confident Brocn would under those circumstances.
Pass Rush wasn't at fault in any of the losses. Secondary was however. I'm very critical of the secondary and am still concerned about its viability going forward. Have to mitigate.
Originally posted by NCommand:All what data, why are you trying to spin it lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:what are you even talking about, in no way did i ever mention to go off of PFF. I don't have access nor look at PFF to get results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:all rankings are bonkers, it's better to go off actual game play and results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:yeah lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:yes it's confusing, cause you are using PFF ?
Some are very confused by this. Ha
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-week-12-2023
Rankings over results. You got to love it.
I don't believe the 5 pressures. Hurts couldn't do anything because of the pressure and most of his sacks were deemed runs tackle for losses lol
Right? Those PFF rankings are bonkers!
So you buy PFF's end result data but not their weekly rankings...which are based off their end results data?
Yes you do. Click on the link. All the data fed to you by YAC is PFF. That's what makes this so comical.
Originally posted by NCommand:NC got it all wrong as usual
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Why don't you keep that same energy for the running game when we run more than pass (until we're behind)? Nobody is denying the QB's role when he does have his shots though. His role is still critical but within the context of our offense, it's way less than a pass-centric offense where the QB "is" the offense.
Or the pass rush where we added a gazillion resources to to not close out 10 point leads late in the 4Q?
Your two examples are QB-centric offenses so of course their teams go as they go. Stafford too back then.
The run game can be affected by the success of fhe pass game as evidenced by this week. But when you have 3.6 seconds to throw and guys are open you should be able to succeed independent of the run game. I'm pretty confident Brocn would under those circumstances.
Pass Rush wasn't at fault in any of the losses. Secondary was however. I'm very critical of the secondary and am still concerned about its viability going forward. Have to mitigate.
Wow. 3.6s? That's more than anyone in the entire NFL right now per NextGen (3.08 highest). Impressive. Ha.
Well technically you've got it all backwards with how this team was built. The run sets up the pass here and the pass rush sets up the secondary.
If you were expecting the pass to set up the run and the secondary to set up the pass rush, no wonder why you pivot to the QB to transcend both.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow. 3.6s? That's more than anyone in the entire NFL right now per NextGen (3.08 highest). Impressive. Ha.
Well technically you've got it all backwards with how this team was built. The run sets up the pass here and the pass rush sets up the secondary.
If you were expecting the pass to set up the run and the secondary to set up the pass rush, no wonder why you pivot to the QB to transcend both.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:All what data, why are you trying to spin it lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:what are you even talking about, in no way did i ever mention to go off of PFF. I don't have access nor look at PFF to get results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:all rankings are bonkers, it's better to go off actual game play and results
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:yeah lol
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:yes it's confusing, cause you are using PFF ?
Some are very confused by this. Ha
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-week-12-2023
Rankings over results. You got to love it.
I don't believe the 5 pressures. Hurts couldn't do anything because of the pressure and most of his sacks were deemed runs tackle for losses lol
Right? Those PFF rankings are bonkers!
So you buy PFF's end result data but not their weekly rankings...which are based off their end results data?
Yes you do. Click on the link. All the data fed to you by YAC is PFF. That's what makes this so comical.
i know why, cause you got caught again using PFF
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow. 3.6s? That's more than anyone in the entire NFL right now per NextGen (3.08 highest). Impressive. Ha.
Well technically you've got it all backwards with how this team was built. The run sets up the pass here and the pass rush sets up the secondary.
If you were expecting the pass to set up the run and the secondary to set up the pass rush, no wonder why you pivot to the QB to transcend both.
I expect the qb and secondary to do their jobs, not be completely carried by the other units.
If a QB has time in the pocket and receivers open I expect him to hit them no matter how the run game is doing. That isn't transcending anything. Thats doing your job.
Similarly if the pass rush is leading the league in quickest time to throw numbers I expect the secondary to at least be passable in coverage. That isn't setting up the pass rush, that's doing your job.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
So if Burford and Banks don't play, would Jaylon Moore get a shot at RG? I am curious.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
So if Burford and Banks don't play, would Jaylon Moore get a shot at RG? I am curious.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
I saw Feliciano get dumped to the ground against Tampa Bay, so I'm not really into looking at a repeat of that kind of play against the Cawks.
