49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except they are ALWAYS less every year under Kyle. That's not going to change. We'll always be bottom 5 because this is a run centric offense of which the passing game thrives off of. It's a Shanahan staple philosophy.

Which is a GOOD thing

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except they are ALWAYS less every year under Kyle. That's not going to change. We'll always be bottom 5 because this is a run centric offense of which the passing game thrives off of. It's a Shanahan staple philosophy.

Which is a GOOD thing

It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect (which is true too).

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect.

Only maybe 1 of the 5 turnovers had anything to do with the line blocking. Brock didn't throw to the linebackers against the Bengals because of pressure. He made bad decisions.

I believe Brock had the capability to overcome bad blocking just like Hurts did Monday and Mahomes did all playoffs. He just has to be smart with the ball like he normally is

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect (which is true too).

NC Incorrect again lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except they are ALWAYS less every year under Kyle. That's not going to change. We'll always be bottom 5 because this is a run centric offense of which the passing game thrives off of. It's a Shanahan staple philosophy.

Which is a GOOD thing

It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

NC I also brought that up as a major concern. We have the talent on offense to make those needed changes. We just need to do it quicker than we have, if we do it at all. That's where a top team like Philly can beat us. We need to adapt to the opposing D faster.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect.

Only maybe 1 of the 5 turnovers had anything to do with the line blocking. Brock didn't throw to the linebackers against the Bengals because of pressure. He made bad decisions.

I believe Brock had the capability to overcome bad blocking just like Hurts did Monday and Mahomes did all playoffs. He just has to be smart with the ball like he normally is

I was talking more of their inability to run and Brock under regular duress. That typically leads to more predictability for teeing off and a QB who feels rushed and makes poor decisions. Like Goff right now. And the flipside of not doing the same to their running game and QB.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect (which is true too).

NC Incorrect again lol

Oh you're right. Our OL/DLs dominated those 3 losses. It was all Brock. Ha.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except they are ALWAYS less every year under Kyle. That's not going to change. We'll always be bottom 5 because this is a run centric offense of which the passing game thrives off of. It's a Shanahan staple philosophy.

Which is a GOOD thing

It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

NC I also brought that up as a major concern. We have the talent on offense to make those needed changes. We just need to do it quicker than we have, if we do it at all. That's where a top team like Philly can beat us. We need to adapt to the opposing D faster.

No doubt. It's an objective take. 2 straight games of getting back on script doesn't change that. It won't be this smooth every week. At some point, we'll need to win off script. I think we can. Get battle tested!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect (which is true too).

NC Incorrect again lol

Oh you're right. Our OL/DLs dominated those 3 losses. It was all Brock. Ha.

Being dominated to dominating .. you have some bipolar extreme takes that no one even came close to mentioning all the time.

this is why you're always incorrect

Originally posted by NCommand:
I was talking more of their inability to run and Brock under regular duress. That typically leads to more predictability for teeing off and a QB who feels rushed and makes poor decisions. Like Goff right now. And the flipside of not doing the same to their running game and QB.

Qbs are gonna be rushed. If you can't make good decisions when rushed you aren't a top qb. Again Eagles win because Hurts can make plays despite his O line.

This line you and faithful like to trot out that when the O line doesn't run block we can't win is crap. They couldn't win before because of the QBs. Now they can. Just need Brock to not make huge mistakes. Would've likely won both games against Cincy and Minnesota if he would've just taken the plays when they were there.

Also the DL were not dominated in those games. The secondaries were. Not the DL fault that Wilks wants soft coverage on every play.

Lions T1 OL getting dominated. Should've invested more in the OL

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Lions T1 OL getting dominated. Should've invested more in the OL

If somehow DET pulls it out the win will all be attributed to the OL like PHI the other night 🤣

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Lions T1 OL getting dominated. Should've invested more in the OL

If somehow DET pulls it out the win will all be attributed to the OL like PHI the other night 🤣

Det played elite, just look at that OL ranking and not the game