49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I was talking more of their inability to run and Brock under regular duress. That typically leads to more predictability for teeing off and a QB who feels rushed and makes poor decisions. Like Goff right now. And the flipside of not doing the same to their running game and QB.

Qbs are gonna be rushed. If you can't make good decisions when rushed you aren't a top qb. Again Eagles win because Hurts can make plays despite his O line.

This line you and faithful like to trot out that when the O line doesn't run block we can't win is crap. They couldn't win before because of the QBs. Now they can. Just need Brock to not make huge mistakes. Would've likely won both games against Cincy and Minnesota if he would've just taken the plays when they were there.

Also the DL were not dominated in those games. The secondaries were. Not the DL fault that Wilks wants soft coverage on every play.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Lions T1 OL getting dominated. Should've invested more in the OL

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's only good when you have a QB who can be extremely efficient within those limited passing opportunities (e.g. Brock, Ryan, etc.) and can stay on script which is going to be a mass majority of the time (75%).

The question is, can they play off that script? Show more balance? Change when needed?

I saw 3 straight games where they struggled with that.

That's my concern come the playoffs.

They only struggled because Brock made uncharacteristic turnovers and they missed field goals. Against both Minnesota and Cincinatti they moves the ball. Just can't turn it over.

Nah, both lines were dominated. You're focused on the end of that ripple effect (which is true too).

NC Incorrect again lol

Oh you're right. Our OL/DLs dominated those 3 losses. It was all Brock. Ha.

Being dominated to dominating .. you have some bipolar extreme takes that no one even came close to mentioning all the time.

this is why you're always incorrect

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

He thinks our line played somewhere between terrible and awesome. He thinks you are not willing to acknowledge the large area between those standards.

You're welcome.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

He thinks our line played somewhere between terrible and awesome. He thinks you are not willing to acknowledge the large area between those standards.

You're welcome.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

He thinks our line played somewhere between terrible and awesome. He thinks you are not willing to acknowledge the large area between those standards.

You're welcome.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. That was terrific!

Happy Turkey Day to you all.

Originally posted by NCommand:
And yet we lost. So?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And yet we lost. So?

Because of turnovers and mediocrity on defense. So?

If the D plays like they did vs Minnesota or Cincy the 9ers can't win in the playoffs either.

Originally posted by NCommand:
OK. You've seen enough L's to see what happens when teams can stop our run going back to the Rams NFCCG. Not 100% of the time but it's certainly going to be a rough outing. If you can't see that and need to pivot elsewhere (your M.O.), that's fine.

Originally posted by NCommand:
OK. You've seen enough L's to see what happens when teams can stop our run going back to the Rams NFCCG. Not 100% of the time but it's certainly going to be a rough outing. If you can't see that and need to pivot elsewhere (your M.O.), that's fine.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
OK. You've seen enough L's to see what happens when teams can stop our run going back to the Rams NFCCG. Not 100% of the time but it's certainly going to be a rough outing. If you can't see that and need to pivot elsewhere (your M.O.), that's fine.

Even still we might win that game if we make an easy interception, or our coach doesn't turtle on a 4th and 2 decision. Our qb had two injuries to his throwing arm, wasn't great healthy, and our backup was unplayable. It's always more than one thing you can point to in a close game.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
OK. You've seen enough L's to see what happens when teams can stop our run going back to the Rams NFCCG. Not 100% of the time but it's certainly going to be a rough outing. If you can't see that and need to pivot elsewhere (your M.O.), that's fine.

It's not about pivoting. It's about casting blame for the primary reasons. The defense playcalling, secondary and Brocks turnovers were BIGGER factors in those losses than either line.

Eagles just won with ther entire O line getting destroyed. Was that about their scheme? No it was their qb made the plays when needed. Brock can do similar. Ideally he doesn't have to but he's shown he has the capability. Just can't make the mistakes and have the D sh*t the bed.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Agreed that it's never one thing esp. with us. But if we come out and can't establish the run tonight early, we all know we're going to be in for a big fight with a narrower window for a win. That's all. It starts with the run.