49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:
Agreed that it's never one thing esp. with us. But if we come out and can't establish the run tonight early, we all know we're going to be in for a big fight with a narrower window for a win. That's all. It starts with the run.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
We'll see. Seattle's run defense has been better than their pass defense to this point. Wouldn't be surprised to see pass heavier play selection.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Disagree. Think they can come out throwing just fine and then establish the run later. Only way they struggle is if they can't pick up blitzes. Seattle isn't gonna do much pressuring with 4.

Must take advantage if their inability to cover Kittle and CMC.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Davis and Luciano called up today. Looks like they're saving Manning for later.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

He thinks our line played somewhere between terrible and awesome. He thinks you are not willing to acknowledge the large area between those standards.

You're welcome.

Haha. That was terrific!

Happy Turkey Day to you all.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I need another All-translation here. Anyone speak it?

He thinks our line played somewhere between terrible and awesome. He thinks you are not willing to acknowledge the large area between those standards.

You're welcome.

Haha. That was terrific!

Happy Turkey Day to you all.

With the translation, you now comprehend that your posts are terrible incorrect. Glad we cleared that up

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Lions T1 OL getting dominated. Should've invested more in the OL

Totally dominated. GB's pass rush is punking them today. No doubt. Goff looks like Goff again.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers O line pass protection

97 pressures and 8 sacks on 313 dropbacks

Eagles O line pass protection

110 pressures and 22 sacks on 382 dropbacks

Pressure rate

49ers- 31.0%
Eagles- 28.8%

sack rate

49ers- 2.6%
Eagles- 5.8%

Are you saying purdybwas only sacked 4vtimes before tampa bay? That cant be right. Are these stats from pfr?

No. I am not saying that. Not all sacks are charged to an O lineman. In fact the only O lineman who have been charged with sacks this season are McKivitz with 5 and Burford with 3. Our other 12 sacks have either come from a free rusher on a blitz or Purdy escaping the pocket and being brought down just before the LOS.

oh. are you quoting some make believe pff stat that doesn't exist in the real world? The only thing people need to know about our pass pro is the eyeball test watching our guys get steamrolled now and then.

To be fair statistically, we do have good pass pro stats. Top5 in sacks given up (i.e. lower sacks). In my opinion that's much more scheme than talent. Purdy + shanny scheming first option reads to break open in < 2.5s.

We've given up 20 sacks so far.

Made up stat? Sacks are a team stat. So what you are saying is that Juice's sack is also on the O line? GTFOH!

These mystery stats are complicated and inevitably we don't know whos reposnsibility is what, or what should been called at the line.

Pretty useless to speculate about it except in the 49er film room.

Our sack percentage is not so good as our raw numbers.

So what you are saying is if Juice, Kittle or CMC give up a pressure or sack that is a reflection of of the O line? Separating responsibilty is exactly what we do to try and gauge the quality of players. If that is not what you think we should be doing than you should just take yourself right out of this conversation because you just lost all credibility.

If our oline is too confused to slide to a free runner, yea, it's still there problem. The bad guys need to rush 6 before we require a te in protection. How often has that happened.

This is why I always reference the term "unit pass protection." When pass protection isn't a top priority in talent acquisition or mastery (run blocking is), that extends to the rest of the unit pass protection in extra OL, TE'S, FB, RB's, etc. and QB's get killed as a result.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers O line pass protection

97 pressures and 8 sacks on 313 dropbacks

Eagles O line pass protection

110 pressures and 22 sacks on 382 dropbacks

Pressure rate

49ers- 31.0%
Eagles- 28.8%

sack rate

49ers- 2.6%
Eagles- 5.8%

Are you saying purdybwas only sacked 4vtimes before tampa bay? That cant be right. Are these stats from pfr?

No. I am not saying that. Not all sacks are charged to an O lineman. In fact the only O lineman who have been charged with sacks this season are McKivitz with 5 and Burford with 3. Our other 12 sacks have either come from a free rusher on a blitz or Purdy escaping the pocket and being brought down just before the LOS.

oh. are you quoting some make believe pff stat that doesn't exist in the real world? The only thing people need to know about our pass pro is the eyeball test watching our guys get steamrolled now and then.

To be fair statistically, we do have good pass pro stats. Top5 in sacks given up (i.e. lower sacks). In my opinion that's much more scheme than talent. Purdy + shanny scheming first option reads to break open in < 2.5s.

We've given up 20 sacks so far.

Made up stat? Sacks are a team stat. So what you are saying is that Juice's sack is also on the O line? GTFOH!

These mystery stats are complicated and inevitably we don't know whos reposnsibility is what, or what should been called at the line.

Pretty useless to speculate about it except in the 49er film room.

Our sack percentage is not so good as our raw numbers.

So what you are saying is if Juice, Kittle or CMC give up a pressure or sack that is a reflection of of the O line? Separating responsibilty is exactly what we do to try and gauge the quality of players. If that is not what you think we should be doing than you should just take yourself right out of this conversation because you just lost all credibility.

If our oline is too confused to slide to a free runner, yea, it's still there problem. The bad guys need to rush 6 before we require a te in protection. How often has that happened.

This is why I always reference the term "unit pass protection." When pass protection isn't a top priority in talent acquisition or mastery (run blocking is), that extends to the rest of the unit pass protection in extra OL, TE'S, FB, RB's, etc. and QB's get killed as a result.

To each his own,...but from my observations,... this term is only referenced as an out to what you've previously said, where you're boxed in and caught between a rock and a hard place.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
We aren't discussing unit pass protection anyway. This is the OFFENSIVE LINE THREAD.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Anybody want to explain to me why multiple times banks came across the formation to chop a guy (sometimes even our own players) and mcaffrey went to the left?

I am assuming its banks fault and just forgetting the plays multiple times...

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
What tier we at this week?