49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

Burford is poor. He's the worst OL they have had starting in years.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
All of those stats show its an OL-thing. Extending to unit is even worse (PP only).

But I agree on Burford. But I don't know what to do there. I'm not so sure the talent is in house. We saw Feliciano fall off not playing next to Williams. A tad better than Burford? Moving to the right side isn't such a quick fix? Moore from LT to RG? That's pretty significant. Pryor to RG...the exclusive RT?

I'm all for trying out different combos but chances are Foerster just puts Burford back in at RG.

Look at your position breakdown. Tackle and Center aren't huge holes. They are middle of the pack. It's guard thats at issue. It's bringing everything else down.

Burford can't keep playing like he has been. He's the weak link.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

yeah i don't like rankings. Being shown on a chart doesn't fancy up that turd

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

yeah i don't like rankings. Being shown on a chart doesn't fancy up that turd

Oh boy. It was so easy for you too.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

yeah i don't like rankings. Being shown on a chart doesn't fancy up that turd

Oh boy. It was so easy for you too.

It's not all B/W remember

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

yeah i don't like rankings. Being shown on a chart doesn't fancy up that turd

Oh boy. It was so easy for you too.

It's not all B/W remember

I know. They added color to the graphs for you. Haha

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You'd think. Strong run blocking and poor unit PP. That's been no different from any past years.

Hopefully it won't matter. But if it is another top 2-3 reasons why we lose, they better do some more self scouting.

It's not a unit problem though. Look at the data. Issue is at guard. Burford is killing them.

It's an average unit if not for him.

Theres no top 2-3 reasons. Every reason is to be blamed exactly. Right?

Not to mention their PP as a whole has never been poor, just because it's not top 2-3 doesn't mean it is poor,

its worse says a post from a few posts above

I know you don't like to read and retain but (#39309).

yeah i don't like rankings. Being shown on a chart doesn't fancy up that turd

Oh boy. It was so easy for you too.

It's not all B/W remember

I know. They added color to the graphs for you. Haha

lol

Originally posted by NCommand:
All of those stats show the whole OL as a problem...from worst to like 23rd.

But I hear you about Burford. He's absolutely the weakest link and there's a chance to be at least average like you said, if they could just find average play there.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
All of those stats show the whole OL as a problem...from worst to like 23rd.

But I hear you about Burford. He's absolutely the weakest link and there's a chance to be at least average like you said, if they could just find average play there.

The stat that actually broke it down showed guard as the main problem though. It's clearly dragging the rest down.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
All of those stats show the whole OL as a problem...from worst to like 23rd.

But I hear you about Burford. He's absolutely the weakest link and there's a chance to be at least average like you said, if they could just find average play there.

The stat that actually broke it down showed guard as the main problem though. It's clearly dragging the rest down.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Here are the updated pressure allowed % and rankings.

QB- 13.0% ranked 19th
LT- 14.8% ranked 3rd
LG- 14.8% ranked 10th
C- 16.9% ranked 26th
RG- 24.9% ranked 33rd
RT- 23.5% ranked 26th
Other- 3.5% ranked 14th.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Here are the updated pressure allowed % and rankings.

QB- 13.0% ranked 19th
LT- 14.8% ranked 3rd
LG- 14.8% ranked 10th
C- 16.9% ranked 26th
RG- 24.9% ranked 33rd
RT- 23.5% ranked 26th
Other- 3.5% ranked 14th.

You get more consistency at RG and C and RT would likely be more middle of pack.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
All of those stats show the whole OL as a problem...from worst to like 23rd.

But I hear you about Burford. He's absolutely the weakest link and there's a chance to be at least average like you said, if they could just find average play there.

The stat that actually broke it down showed guard as the main problem though. It's clearly dragging the rest down.