49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

So are you arguing that there is only 1 top tier QB in the NFL? and that sole top tier QB is Brock?

Odds have to include the top 3-4 players. But yes, in the NFC, without question. Nobody is in Brock's league right now. The others are tier 2, IMHO.

I think Brock's agility in the pocket helps out our 49ers OLine, but it's still pressure coming from the interior that seems to bother him a bit. Purdy can't step up, in a sense, in those cases. I saw the DT's knife in-between Brendel and Burford and got some penetration on those first series in the first quarter and that was a bit disappointing. They tightened it up later and the rest is history. My ideal OLine draft situation is getting a top flight OT, and then shoring up that center position (assuming McKivitz - by playoff time - is approaching great/all-pro level play). McKivitz, I thought, did a very good job against that Eagle DLine. 🏹🏹🏹 On the Oline, so far. If they keep progressing like this, they will be a very good line going into the playoffs.

49ers O line gave up 11 pressures. Eagles O line gave up 23.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

So are you arguing that there is only 1 top tier QB in the NFL? and that sole top tier QB is Brock?

Odds have to include the top 3-4 players. But yes, in the NFC, without question. Nobody is in Brock's league right now. The others are tier 2, IMHO.

We were talking about the whole NFL. Why are you talking NFC only all of a sudden? Jalen Hurt is actually now top 3 in the MVP odds ahead of Maholmes, Tua, Lamar and etc.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers O line gave up 11 pressures. Eagles O line gave up 23.

3 sacks vs 1 sack

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by random49er:
Where was all this excuse-making when Banks and Trent were sidelined?

We needed "DEPTH." We were hit over and over again with the word "DEPTH."

But a Philly, "Tier 1" or not,... needs to be "Healthy and Rested"...for their "tierness" to shine

It's always different standards

Hilarious watching him spin and get all pissy after this win 🤣

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

eagles should have invested in OL to the type of QB Hurts is, like you said about our OL and JG

Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

The OL didn't help the QB, so they should have invested in the right OL. just like the time you said our OL wasn't the right OL to make jimmy better

There was plenty of time all game. Hurts just isn't very good at playing standard QB. Plus the coverage was excellent.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

Eany to be great when the entirety of the design was to contain your qb. 9ers still got Hurts off his spot consistently

Nah, Gregory and Bosa, etc. were still rushing the QB. You can do both. Ferrell and Gregory got caught inside a couple times and let him escape outside.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

Eany to be great when the entirety of the design was to contain your qb. 9ers still got Hurts off his spot consistently

Didn't realize 3 sacks and 9 QB hits constituted great PP. what a joke

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

So are you arguing that there is only 1 top tier QB in the NFL? and that sole top tier QB is Brock?

Odds have to include the top 3-4 players. But yes, in the NFC, without question. Nobody is in Brock's league right now. The others are tier 2, IMHO.

We were talking about the whole NFL. Why are you talking NFC only all of a sudden? Jalen Hurt is actually now top 3 in the MVP odds ahead of Maholmes, Tua, Lamar and etc.

I was talking the NFC from the graph yesterday. Brock was like 3rd or 4th which is nuts up against Hurts, Dak, etc.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
49ers O line gave up 11 pressures. Eagles O line gave up 23.

What's the TTT differential? That was by design.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

eagles should have invested in OL to the type of QB Hurts is, like you said about our OL and JG

Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

The OL didn't help the QB, so they should have invested in the right OL. just like the time you said our OL wasn't the right OL to make jimmy better

There was plenty of time all game. Hurts just isn't very good at playing standard QB. Plus the coverage was excellent.

huh so now the excuses can be made for other teams?

So a tier 1 doesn't matter if the QB isn't good.. thanks for confirming that OL wasn't the issue when jimmy was here

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

eagles should have invested in OL to the type of QB Hurts is, like you said about our OL and JG

Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

The OL didn't help the QB, so they should have invested in the right OL. just like the time you said our OL wasn't the right OL to make jimmy better

There was plenty of time all game. Hurts just isn't very good at playing standard QB. Plus the coverage was excellent.

huh so now the excuses can be made for other teams?

So a tier 1 doesn't matter if the QB isn't good.. thanks for confirming that OL wasn't the issue when jimmy was here

Did Hurts not have time now? Are you really trying to spin it like their OL failed him? Too funny.

You need both. Hurts ain't tier 1. No way.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

Eany to be great when the entirety of the design was to contain your qb. 9ers still got Hurts off his spot consistently

Didn't realize 3 sacks and 9 QB hits constituted great PP. what a joke

Jalen had an average of 4.62 seconds before being pressured. But that was the game plan. Keep Hurts in the pocket and force him to play QB. Worked like a charm.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
You think Hurts played like a tier 1 QB?

Entering this week he was like 4th in the MVP betting odds. He can be a tier 1 QB depending on your definition.

He's had nice stretches and has been battle tested and clutch but nothing about any of his numbers this year especially, should have him in MVP talks especially when you dive into the metrics.

Top 4 in the MVP betting odds is what it is.

That speaks more to the pour class than anything. It's Brock and then a big drop off IMHO.

eagles should have invested in OL to the type of QB Hurts is, like you said about our OL and JG

Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

The OL didn't help the QB, so they should have invested in the right OL. just like the time you said our OL wasn't the right OL to make jimmy better

There was plenty of time all game. Hurts just isn't very good at playing standard QB. Plus the coverage was excellent.

huh so now the excuses can be made for other teams?

So a tier 1 doesn't matter if the QB isn't good.. thanks for confirming that OL wasn't the issue when jimmy was here

Did Hurts not have time now? Are you really trying to spin it like their OL failed him? Too funny.

You need both. Hurts ain't tier 1. No way.

i'm not spinning anything, i'm using your own argument.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Huh? They were great in PP against our tier 1 DL. You'll have ask YAC but I'm sure PFF had them at 13.5s before pressure. LOL.

Eany to be great when the entirety of the design was to contain your qb. 9ers still got Hurts off his spot consistently

Didn't realize 3 sacks and 9 QB hits constituted great PP. what a joke

Jalen had an average of 4.62 seconds before being pressured. But that was the game plan. Keep Hurts in the pocket and force him to play QB. Worked like a charm.

That's enough time to order pizza, tie your shoes, call a relative, etc.

On the flip side, Brock had his usual 2.5s game rendering the PP as moot as possible.

Brock >>>>>>>>> Hurts

You give Brock an OL that can hold in PP for 4.62s he'll score 80 on you.