49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by zugschef:
Exactly my thoughts. That whole "tier"-thing is almost always complete and utter nonsense in any context because the definition of tiers is fluent or completely missing.

Oh it's intentionally missing

Tier 2 journalist has thoughts.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

I've felt this way for a while, and I think it's really showing up today: The NFL has an offensive line issue. All the reductions in practice time and contact have wreaked havoc on teams ability to develop OL depth, and that's made injuries catostrophic.

It's a real problem.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) December 11, 2023

Tier 2 journalist has thoughts.

This was a sweet play by multiple players…checkout Colton on this play though

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You have not advocated for Dallas as being Tier 1 nor said they were talented enough to be tier 1 all season. but now you are because BT said so ?

The original rankings you provided were before the season started, which would mean they were all healthy. Dallas wasn't considered Tier 1

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I'm going off of "you need only the one" (OL), before he changed to "You Need Both" (QB/OL). The days where NC said OL was the issue and not the QB

I'm glad he has realized QB is the major factor now

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
yeah, well NC said you can only win a SB if you're ranked Tier 1 OL by this one guy BThomas

Do you smoke...a lot?

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by thl408:
Is it possible to not have a Tier 1 OL in the whole league? Meaning if all OLs are bad, then there is no Tier 1 OL. Or is it by default, the best OL (least bad) is crowned Tier 1?

Exactly my thoughts. That whole "tier"-thing is almost always complete and utter nonsense in any context because the definition of tiers is fluent or completely missing.

So you don't think our DL is tier 1? And what about a site which updates those tiers weekly?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

I've felt this way for a while, and I think it's really showing up today: The NFL has an offensive line issue. All the reductions in practice time and contact have wreaked havoc on teams ability to develop OL depth, and that's made injuries catostrophic.

It's a real problem.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) December 11, 2023

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That was hilarious!

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This was a sweet play by multiple players…checkout Colton on this play though

Okay then pic.twitter.com/669XOYaC9T

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) December 12, 2023

That's one way of getting it done. Hey, if DE's can do it, why not him!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by thl408:
Is it possible to not have a Tier 1 OL in the whole league? Meaning if all OLs are bad, then there is no Tier 1 OL. Or is it by default, the best OL (least bad) is crowned Tier 1?

Exactly my thoughts. That whole "tier"-thing is almost always complete and utter nonsense in any context because the definition of tiers is fluent or completely missing.

So you don't think our DL is tier 1? And what about a site which updates those tiers weekly?

What I meant is if there is always at least one Tier 1 OL. If every single OL sucks, is the one that sucks the least called 'Tier 1', or is it possible that there is no Tier 1 OL because there isn't an OL deserving of that title?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

I've felt this way for a while, and I think it's really showing up today: The NFL has an offensive line issue. All the reductions in practice time and contact have wreaked havoc on teams ability to develop OL depth, and that's made injuries catostrophic.

It's a real problem.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) December 11, 2023

Tier 2 journalist has thoughts.

ive been thinking that injuries seem down this season lol

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by thl408:
Is it possible to not have a Tier 1 OL in the whole league? Meaning if all OLs are bad, then there is no Tier 1 OL. Or is it by default, the best OL (least bad) is crowned Tier 1?

Exactly my thoughts. That whole "tier"-thing is almost always complete and utter nonsense in any context because the definition of tiers is fluent or completely missing.

So you don't think our DL is tier 1? And what about a site which updates those tiers weekly?

What I meant is if there is always at least one Tier 1 OL. If every single OL sucks, is the one that sucks the least called 'Tier 1', or is it possible that there is no Tier 1 OL because there isn't an OL deserving of that title?

Fair question. The least I've seen from Brandon Thorn/TrenchWarfare is only 1 team in Tier 1. But knowing their focus on the subject, I have little doubt they'd have a problem not putting a team in Tier 1 just because. In fact, they only have a total of 5 teams combined in Tier 1 and 2. That's a pretty good indication they think the rest of the league is struggling building up top OL's that deserve higher rankings.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Fair question. The least I've seen from Brandon Thorn/TrenchWarfare is only 1 team in Tier 1. But knowing their focus on the subject . . . .

without ever purchasing a subscription?

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
ive been thinking that injuries seem down this season lol

...and production is up!
McCaffrey is averaging 5.2 yards per carry, last year he was at 4.7. This is without McGlinchy and *with* McKivitz. So, clearly the OLine has improved since last year - with just that Stat alone. Definitely 🏹🏹🏹 for this Offensive Line. Hope they keep it up and get better and better as they approach the playoffs.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Fair question. The least I've seen from Brandon Thorn/TrenchWarfare is only 1 team in Tier 1. But knowing their focus on the subject . . . .

without ever purchasing a subscription?

Fake it, even if you don't make it

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
ive been thinking that injuries seem down this season lol

...and production is up!
McCaffrey is averaging 5.2 yards per carry, last year he was at 4.7. This is without McGlinchy and *with* McKivitz. So, clearly the OLine has improved since last year - with just that Stat alone. Definitely 🏹🏹🏹 for this Offensive Line. Hope they keep it up and get better and better as they approach the playoffs.

100% improved. I said McKivitz would probably end up being an improvement too. It was a logical move to me. That being said I was surprised they didn't draft new bodies to compete. They have def settled in the last few weeks and are playing much better.

Also Breer isn't wrong about O line development. The CBA really hurt that. Look at Moore. He is finally coming around after YEARS.

I predict more coaches will lean on running games again as this takes the pressure off young QB's and lines who are still learning the nuance of pass protection. It will help them all develop better while under live fire etc. Right now if you look across the league its kind of bad overall. The quality has dropped for sure.