49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You have not advocated for Dallas as being Tier 1 nor said they were talented enough to be tier 1 all season. but now you are because BT said so ?

The original rankings you provided were before the season started, which would mean they were all healthy. Dallas wasn't considered Tier 1

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I'm going off of "you need only the one" (OL), before he changed to "You Need Both" (QB/OL). The days where NC said OL was the issue and not the QB

I'm glad he has realized QB is the major factor now

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
yeah, well NC said you can only win a SB if you're ranked Tier 1 OL by this one guy BThomas

Do you smoke...a lot?

lol, i'm just repeating what you have stated.. so who's smoking really

Feliciano has bee real upgrade - I hope he keeps starting.

Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

I dunno if anyone here has the proper subscription to tell you.

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You have not advocated for Dallas as being Tier 1 nor said they were talented enough to be tier 1 all season. but now you are because BT said so ?

The original rankings you provided were before the season started, which would mean they were all healthy. Dallas wasn't considered Tier 1

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I'm going off of "you need only the one" (OL), before he changed to "You Need Both" (QB/OL). The days where NC said OL was the issue and not the QB

I'm glad he has realized QB is the major factor now

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
yeah, well NC said you can only win a SB if you're ranked Tier 1 OL by this one guy BThomas

Do you smoke...a lot?

lol, i'm just repeating what you have stated.. so who's smoking really

Your brain works like a meat grinder. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

You bet.

TrenchWarfare (Brandon Thorn).

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

You bet.

TrenchWarfare (Brandon Thorn).

Be prepared to spend $40 per month for the subscription.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

You bet.

TrenchWarfare (Brandon Thorn).

Be prepared to spend $40 per month for the subscription.

It ain't cheap but follow BT on X and the site offers a ton of free stuff too.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

I agree in a sense with BT and NC on the OLine ranking. I'd rank the 49ers higher myself if they were all as physically imposing like Trent Williams is against all DLines. What lowers the OLine ranking in my eyes is that against 8 man fronts, the 49er OLine can't just manhandle DLines like the Eagles can with their Tush Push. Good news is that this OLIne is young, aside from Trent, and can and is getting better all the time. They aren't *weak* like Person's was back in 2019 - when he got dominated by Chris Jones. I don't see any of our 5 OLinemen getting dominated every play the way Person was that day.

Personally, I think to be a Tier 1, or a topflight OLIne - we need a Mike Webster type center (who can handle DT's all by himself) and an elite Right Tackle (McKivitz is pretty good though and getting better). If Feliciano/Burford can match Banks' performance - that would go a long way for me to consider the 49er OLine to be a topflight line.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

I agree in a sense with BT and NC on the OLine ranking. I'd rank the 49ers higher myself if they were all as physically imposing like Trent Williams is against all DLines. What lowers the OLine ranking in my eyes is that against 8 man fronts, the 49er OLine can't just manhandle DLines like the Eagles can with their Tush Push. Good news is that this OLIne is young, aside from Trent, and can and is getting better all the time. They aren't *weak* like Person's was back in 2019 - when he got dominated by Chris Jones. I don't see any of our 5 OLinemen getting dominated every play the way Person was that day.

Personally, I think to be a Tier 1, or a topflight OLIne - we need a Mike Webster type center (who can handle DT's all by himself) and an elite Right Tackle (McKivitz is pretty good though and getting better). If Feliciano/Burford can match Banks' performance - that would go a long way for me to consider the 49er OLine to be a topflight line.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Kyle and John address the OL this off season too. Are they really going to add high end picks for C and T? Resign Feliciano?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know where the Niners Online currently ranks?

DL dropped to #2 behind the Cowboys (still tier 1) and the OL remains 7th (Tier 3 Good/Above Average). Both lines are playing good ball even with injuries.

PS: The OL started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Thanks! Yes it seems like the line has been doing better. Obviously better at run blocking than pass blocking but I think the pass blocking has improved.

what is the site that has that info?

I agree in a sense with BT and NC on the OLine ranking. I'd rank the 49ers higher myself if they were all as physically imposing like Trent Williams is against all DLines. What lowers the OLine ranking in my eyes is that against 8 man fronts, the 49er OLine can't just manhandle DLines like the Eagles can with their Tush Push. Good news is that this OLIne is young, aside from Trent, and can and is getting better all the time. They aren't *weak* like Person's was back in 2019 - when he got dominated by Chris Jones. I don't see any of our 5 OLinemen getting dominated every play the way Person was that day.

Personally, I think to be a Tier 1, or a topflight OLIne - we need a Mike Webster type center (who can handle DT's all by himself) and an elite Right Tackle (McKivitz is pretty good though and getting better). If Feliciano/Burford can match Banks' performance - that would go a long way for me to consider the 49er OLine to be a topflight line.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Kyle and John address the OL this off season too. Are they really going to add high end picks for C and T? Resign Feliciano

I would think they would do their best to maybe get Feliciano another year or two with the 49ers. He is a good OLineman and adds depth. Burford is still rounding into shape, and I do think eventually he'll be a good player. I think Burford makes more mental errors than Feliciano though, and he has to fix that to get a full time starting position.

I do know the Draft Nerds say that this 2023 OLIne crop is pretty good. Assuming they are correct, then ShanaLynch definitely will be adding OLine talent this offseason. I think outside of Feliciano, the other free agents haven't shown much. I really think a good OLine is cheaper than all pro's at the skill positions - from a cap perspective.

Originally posted by NCommand:
PS: ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶O̶L̶ Outsider opinions started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Corrected

Going from 19th to 7th isin't a sign of "improving steadily." This is the fake bill of goods sold here that -- scarily -- some here continue to buy.

It's a sign of flat-out being wrong, and/or swinging "rankings" whichever way the team is currently doing.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
PS: ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶O̶L̶ Outsider opinions started as 19th and have slowly been climbing.

Corrected

Going from 19th to 7th isin't a sign of "improving steadily." This is the fake bill of goods sold here that -- scarily -- some here continue to buy.

It's a sign of flat-out being wrong, and/or swinging "rankings" whichever way the team is currently doing.

When we win the SB, the O line will magically be teir 1 all by themselves.